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Another stick with which to beat the President - he's a Closet Catholic
1 posted on 04/13/2008 8:54:51 AM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o

The WaPo’s and Daniel Burke’s Papist bigotry is showing brightly.


2 posted on 04/13/2008 8:59:19 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: don-o

“Bush also used Catholic doctrine and rhetoric to push his faith-based initiative, a movement to open federal funding to grass-roots religious groups that provide social services to their communities. Much of that initiative is based on the Catholic principle of “subsidiarity” — the idea that local people are in the best position to solve local problems. “The president probably knows absolutely nothing about the Catholic catechism, but he’s very familiar with the principle of subsidiarity,” said H. James Towey, former director of the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives who is now the president of a Catholic college in southwestern Pennsylvania. “It’s the sense that the government is not the savior and that problems like poverty have spiritual roots.”

“Nonetheless, Bush is not without his Catholic critics. Some contend that his faith-based rhetoric is just small-government conservatism dressed up in religious vestments, and that his economic policies, including tax cuts for the rich, have created a wealth gap that clearly upends the Catholic principle of solidarity with the poor.”

Bush has totally IGNORED the real separation of “church and state”. As it stands now, Muslims can get government money and “help” the poor. It is WRONG to use government money to further “religion”. THe money SHOULD come from the church and it’s givers - not the state.


3 posted on 04/13/2008 9:01:38 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Nonetheless, Bush is not without his Catholic critics. Some contend that his faith-based rhetoric is just small-government conservatism dressed up in religious vestments, and that his economic policies, including tax cuts for the rich, have created a wealth gap that clearly upends the Catholic principle of solidarity with the poor.

TO my favorite Catholic apologist:

Please expound on the mentioned principle. Is there a difference in expectation from individuals as opposed to organizations - businesses, governments, etc?

4 posted on 04/13/2008 9:01:53 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben, reports to Parris Island on June 30.)
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To: don-o

The Catholic haters/bashers on FR are going to be seething with anger!


5 posted on 04/13/2008 9:02:26 AM PDT by notaliberal
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To: Tony Snow
Should prove to be an interesting thread *PING*
8 posted on 04/13/2008 9:11:45 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (High Maintenance Estrogen Bot........... look out :0))
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To: don-o

I believe Bush is a Christian who understands the salvation offered by Jesus Christ. But his religion doctrine is very muddled. Bush is genuine do-gooder with good intentions as opposed to Democrats who pretend to be do-gooders but have bad intentions. Neither political model offers the country much in the way of leadership.


9 posted on 04/13/2008 9:12:21 AM PDT by Biblebelter (Barry, let your Uncle Jeremiah speak publicly, so he can set the record straight himself.)
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To: don-o

Wow. I’m surprised.


10 posted on 04/13/2008 9:25:17 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: don-o
To make the case, Bush has often borrowed Pope John Paul II's mantra of promoting a "culture of life."

I'm trying to remember the last time the MSM has referred to any slogan of the left as a "mantra." Using the term indicates contempt.

Some contend that his faith-based rhetoric is just small-government conservatism dressed up in religious vestments, and that his economic policies, including tax cuts for the rich, have created a wealth gap that clearly upends the Catholic principle of solidarity with the poor.

The idea of the "wealth gap" is a holy of holies to the Left. It's not enough to help the poor, we must punish the rich, an idea that seems strikingly un-Christian.

11 posted on 04/13/2008 9:32:13 AM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: don-o; CT-Freeper; ELS; NYer; Coleus; narses; Salvation; Pyro7480

Ping-a-ling, Cat-licks.


14 posted on 04/13/2008 9:40:19 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Pleased to be of service.)
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To: don-o
I'm a Catholic. I would say that the Catholic clergy that President Bush associates with is unfortunately left of center. They would rather be compassionate than be accused of using tough love. This is one of the reasons for the fact that Catholics showed up as a smaller percentage in the survey that showed 80% of Christians supporting Israel. This is why we've seen churches providing safe havens for illegals. As a conservative Catholic, I believe tough love is compassion.
15 posted on 04/13/2008 9:42:10 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: don-o
"Another stick with which to beat the President - he's a Closet Catholic."

I agree. A non-story from the WaPo is still a non-story. Although, I would love to see the President cross the Tiber, I doubt that it will happen. I think Jeb is Catholic, and he might have been helpful in forming George W.'s non-combative stance toward Catholics in general; but that's a far cry from preferential hire or thoughts of conversion. As I said above, a meaningless non-story suitable only for taking up space in their dying paper.

18 posted on 04/13/2008 9:52:21 AM PDT by redhead (Come ON, global warming!!)
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To: don-o
Prayer Thread for Pope Benedict XVI

Please keep bumping the prayer thread by adding your prayers to it!

21 posted on 04/13/2008 1:28:39 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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the president remarked that he had read one of the new pontiff's books about faith and culture in Western Europe.


26 posted on 04/13/2008 3:43:50 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: don-o
The usual suspects will blow a gasket when reminded of the icon of the Blessed Mother and Christ on the corner table in the family quarters in the White House photographed on election night 2004.


28 posted on 04/13/2008 4:02:47 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: don-o

These are the good old days, aren’t they?


34 posted on 04/13/2008 7:04:24 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand ( If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you...)
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To: Coleus; firebrand

ping


35 posted on 04/13/2008 7:06:46 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: don-o; Gamecock
Another stick with which to beat the President - he's a Closet Catholic

But...but...but...if he doesn't receive the Eucharist weekly, the FRCatholics will claim he's not a real Catholic....

39 posted on 04/13/2008 8:57:02 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" -- Galatians 4:16)
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To: don-o; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

52 posted on 04/14/2008 5:34:56 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: don-o

Actually, although the intention is probably malevolent, there’s some truth in it.

Ronald Reagan also had some extremely useful Catholic tutoring. Among other things, as is well known, Reagan worked closely with JP II to bring down the Soviet Union.

Look up Paul Kengor’s book “The Judge” at Ignatius Press.

http://www.ignatius.com/ViewProduct.aspx?SID=1&Product_ID=3140&SKU=J-H&ReturnURL=search.aspx%3f%3fSID%3d1%26SearchCriteria%3dreagan

Kengor has written several other books, including one on Bush and religion.


55 posted on 04/14/2008 5:57:32 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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