Gay Catholics plan 'respectful presence' along pope's route (spew massive chunks alert)

Dayton Daily News ^ | 4/13/2008 | Khalid Moss

[markomalley]

Not all Catholics are welcoming Pope Benedict XVI with open arms. Gay Catholics and especially gay Catholics associated with DignityUSA will launch formal protests in Washington and New York against Benedict and his "anti-gay stances."

Mark Matson of Powell, Ohio, is president of the board of DignityUSA, the nation's largest organization of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender Catholics.

"We, along with many Catholics, disagree with the church's official position about teachings on sexual issues," Matson said. "Our particular area of focus is around sexual orientation.

"There are lot of faithful Catholics who dissent from the church's teachings on sexuality. For example, Catholics and birth control. Most lay Catholics don't follow the church's teaching on birth control issues or family planning. There are major disconnects between what Catholics do and what the church demands of them."

Matson characterizes DignityUSA as a "voice of faithful dissent." On Saturday, April 12, the organization will stage a protest demonstration — The Global Impact of Pope Benedict's Anti-gay Campaign — at Ralph J. Bunche Park across the street from the United Nations in New York City.

"The Vatican demands strict allegiance," Matson said. "The current pope is about orthodoxy. But a fundamental teaching of the church is the primacy of conscience. This means any Catholic whose conscience is well-informed by the teachings of the church ultimately has to follow their conscience."

On Tuesday, when the pope arrives, DignityUSA will demonstrate along the pope's motorcade route through Washington D.C. The group will be present during the pope's meeting with U.S. bishops Wednesday.

"We're going to have a presence on the parade route with signs," Matson explained. "It will be a respectful presence by a portion of his flock that has been ignored and vilified."

[markomalley]

As the majority of victims in the Church scandal were teenage boys - the problem really lies with homosexual ephebophilia.

Oh, c'mon now. How dare you call it a homosexual problem. After all, only 80+% of the perps went for same-sex abuse.

The real issue is that those durned Cat-o-lics don't allow married priests....

Or maybe the issue is that those durned Cat-o-lics don't allow women priests...

Or maybe the issue is...

((sigh))

/sarc

[Scotswife]

LOL!

Allowing these particular priests to marry?
Sure - they weren’t exactly the marrying type were they?

[Scotswife]

“That is in contradiction to Catholic teachings as well.”

agreed...but you see a child-like tendency to point to the faults of others to justify one’s own faults.

Chastise a child for stealing, and he/she might say “but the others do it all the time and don’t get in trouble!”

This is the adult version...”those straight folks violate the teaching all the time!”

[wintertime]

Bingo!

[Barnacle]

Not all Catholics are welcoming Pope Benedict XVI with open arms.

Another group, Kleptomaniacal Catholics for the Redistribution of Wealth, are not happy with the Pope's teaching on theft.

[ViLaLuz]

Anyone who is shamelessy gay is not a Catholic.

[cammie]

Perhaps all of us are in for a rude awakening on Judgment Day.

[Patriotic1]

they are not Catholics as long as they choose to oppose the teachings of the church and rally others to do so.

And on top of everything else, they are committing the sin of scandal, causing others to be unrepentant in their sinning. Good grief, they are openly advocating sinning.

[Straight Vermonter]

Pray for them as you would any other sinner.

[MaggieM]

1300 pages, that is quite a tome!
I researched the book.
Is it out of print?
The only copy I could find was used for 63.00.
I recently bought a book for 37.00 and choked.
Haven't had a chance to read it, but hopefully it is worth what i spent :)
If you have any thoughts on where I might find a more reasonably priced copy, id be interested.
Thanks.

[Pinkbell]

Gay Catholics

One can't be a practicing homosexual and Catholic. It is an oxymoron. If one is doing so, one is de facto excommunicated and shouldn't be recieving Communion until repentance is sought.

"There are lot of faithful Catholics who dissent from the church's teachings on sexuality. For example, Catholics and birth control. Most lay Catholics don't follow the church's teaching on birth control issues or family planning. There are major disconnects between what Catholics do and what the church demands of them."

They aren't exactly "faithful" if they aren't adhering to all the Church's teachings, are they? Just because there are Catholics that do not follow all of the teachings of the Church, that doesn't make it right.

Matson characterizes DignityUSA as a "voice of faithful dissent."

I characterize it as a false prophet leading the sheep astray.

On Saturday, April 12, the organization will stage a protest demonstration — The Global Impact of Pope Benedict's Anti-gay Campaign — at Ralph J. Bunche Park across the street from the United Nations in New York City.

"The Vatican demands strict allegiance," Matson said. "The current pope is about orthodoxy. But a fundamental teaching of the church is the primacy of conscience. This means any Catholic whose conscience is well-informed by the teachings of the church ultimately has to follow their conscience."

That's a distortion. What if their "conscience" dictates it's ok to steal, rape children, murder???

[Pinkbell]

They ought to be throwing the ashes and blowing whistles at themselves. They are the ones causing division and violating human dignity.