World's Oldest, 8,000 Year Old (Living) Tree Found In Sweden

Thaindian -RIA Novosti ^ | 4-10-2008

[SunkenCiv]

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[Soliton]

This is a Satan tree. The Earth is only 6000 years old. The fact that they are used as Christmas trees only proves that Santa (Satan without the “n”) is the antichrist. Please see Ben Stein’s new movie. He is a jew for Christ if there ever was one :).

[Hiddigeigei]

Since they dated the tree using the carbon-14 test, they must have taken a core that reached the center (the oldest part), so the should also be able to count the rings.

[org.whodat]

Did not read the story did you??

[gitmo]

I’m surprised. No McCain jokes on this thread.

[cynwoody]

I’m surprised. No McCain jokes on this thread.

Here's a nasty one from 1998.

[deuteronlmy232]

Ah, of course, the infamously inaccurate carbon 14 test. Hey 6.5 feet, good for a Christmas tree.

[deuteronlmy232]

ya, not much to read:

Stockholm, April 10 (RIA Novosti) Scientists in northern Sweden believe they have discovered the world’s oldest living tree dating back nearly 8,000 years, local media said Thursday. A Norway spruce, which was found growing at a height of 950 metres above sea level, is more than two metres (6.5 feet) tall and about 20 centimeters (8 inches) in width. Shortly after the discovery, scientists sent samples from the tree to a laboratory in Miami, US, and were amazed to learn that the tree was 7,800 years old. Lars Hedlund, a local councillor from Dalecarlia where the tree was found, told Swedish Radio that the tree was one of the first to grow following the end of the ice age. The Norway spruce is one of the most common spruces, often used as Christmas trees. According to the Guinness Book of Records, the oldest living tree is 4,768 years old and is a Great Basin Bristlecone Pine “Methuselah” located in the White Mountains of California. RIA Novosti

Let's see, 8000 year old tree, 6400 years since man was kicked out of the Garden of Eden and 4800 years since the flood that totally remodeled the earth, and this tree has survived? I think not.

[WoofDog123]

“Although a single tree trunk can become at most about 600 years old, the spruces had survived by pushing out another trunk as soon as the old one died, Professor Kullman said.”

This means the same root system from the original tree survives, but can sprout another trunk? I am not familiar with this concept.

[gitmo]

Nasty. Funny, too.

[OldCorps]

from Novosti-a commie propaganda organ

[Recon Dad]

Do you think this qualifies as old growth? /s

[debboo]

Now if only a nice tree hugger could get it to talk...

[uglybiker]

Now if only a nice tree hugger could get it to talk...

[RoadTest]

“6.5 feet tall and 8 inches wide and they want us to believe it is 8000 years old? Right, cut the sucker in half and ocunt the rings. Probably closer to eight eyars old.”

Yeah. I had a problem with those dimensions. I was expecting to read that it was 300 feet tall, or something on that order. 6.5 feet?

[bert]

I visited a site in the Pisgah national Forest where there two rare, large American Chestnut trees with burrs, just below the ridge line.

Off in the distance is a batholyth...can’t remember the name,and the place in question offers the best view.

A year or so later I returned to photograph the trees and they had been cut down to clear the view.

[bert]

Eastern American forests have lots of American Chestnuts growing from very old root stocks. the original stems that might have been very large trees are dead.

When the new saplings get to be 10 or so, they are attacked by the blight, die off and the cycle starts over..

[blam]

Resurrecting the American chestnut

[aruanan]

"Although a single tree trunk can become at most about 600 years old, the spruces had survived by pushing out another trunk as soon as the old one died," Professor Kullman said.

The bristlecones are still the oldest individual organisms, though that creosote in Utah is, because of identical genetic markers, supposed to be the oldest individual organism at some 80,000 years.

Seems the Swedes took the weasel route. This is like coming up with a headline about finding crocodiles that are millions of years old and then saying that although a single crocodile can become at most about 100 years old, the crocodiles have survived by reproducing other crocodiles before the older ones died.

[Fred Nerks]

A New Alpine Melt Theory.LINK.

The Morteratsch glacier in Switzerland has retreated by 1.5 km since 1900. Some scientists believe that glacial fluctuation could be a more normal development than previously thought.

The Alpine glaciers are shrinking, that much we know. But new research suggests that in the time of the Roman Empire, they were smaller than today. And 7,000 years ago they probably weren't around at all. A group of climatologists have come up with a controversial new theory on how the Alps must have looked over the ages.

Journey to the center of the earth. Or under the glacier at least.

He may not look like a revolutionary, but Ulrich Joerin, a wiry Swiss scientist in his late twenties, is part of a small group of climatologists who are in the process of radically changing the image of the Swiss mountain world. He and a colleague are standing in front of the Tschierva Glacier in Engadin, Switzerland at 2,200 meters (7,217 feet). "A few thousand years ago, there were no glaciers here at all," he says. "Back then we would have been standing in the middle of a forest." He digs into the ground with his mountain boot until something dark appears: an old tree trunk, covered in ice, polished by water and almost black with humidity. "And here is the proof," says Joerin...

Melting glaciers in Western Canada are revealing tree stumps up to 7,000 years old where the region's rivers of ice have retreated to a historic minimum, a geologist said today.LINK.