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Nutter defiantly signs five gun laws (Philadelphia mayor breaks State Law)
The Philadephia Inquirer ^ | 11 APR 2008 | Jeff Shields

Posted on 04/11/2008 6:27:14 AM PDT by 2banana

Nutter defiantly signs five gun laws

Council's measures appear to fly in the face of state law and legal precedent.

The NRA says it will sue. By Jeff Shields

Inquirer Staff Writer

Mayor Nutter likened himself and City Council members yesterday to the band of rebels who formed this country as he signed five new gun-control laws that defy the state legislature and legal precedent. "Almost 232 years ago, a group of concerned Americans took matters in their own hands and did what they needed to do by declaring that the time had come for a change," Nutter said as he signed the bills in front of a table of confiscated weapons outside the police evidence room in City Hall.

"We are going to make ourselves independent of the violence that's been taking place in this city for far too long," he said.

The five laws - called everything from unconstitutional to criminal by critics - do the following:

Limit handgun purchases to one a month.

Require lost or stolen firearms to be reported to police within 24 hours.

Prohibit individuals under protection-from-abuse orders from possessing guns if ordered by the court.

Allow removal of firearms from "persons posing a risk of imminent personal injury" to themselves or others.

Outlaw the possession and sale of certain assault weapons.

Nutter said he would begin to enforce the laws immediately, with the exception of the one-gun-a-month requirement, which takes effect in six months.

He and Council are in for a fight, however. The city has tried and failed for three decades to buck the 1974 state law that reserves gun regulation to the state legislature. The state's preeminence appeared to be cemented in a 1996 Supreme Court ruling that allowed the legislature to prevent Philadelphia and Pittsburgh from enacting local gun laws.

Recent efforts include a 2005 referendum in which city voters, by a 4-1 ratio, demanded that the state allow the city to pass its own gun laws. Council members Darrell L. Clarke and Donna Reed Miller sponsored a set of gun-control measures bills last year, then sued the legislature to allow them to move forward. That case is pending.

National Rifle Association spokesman John Hohenwarter said he expected the organization to sue "within a short time frame."

Kim Stolfer, vice chairman of the Pennsylvania Sportsmen's Association's legislative committee, said the organization was considering its legal options and suggested that the enactment of the laws was a criminal act.

"He's committing five misdemeanor crimes," Stolfer said. "What kind of message is he sending when he and City Council are willing to commit crimes for issues that are not going to work?"

Nutter and Council are not likely to find a great deal of support in the legislature.

State Representative John M. Perzel (R., Phila.) said through a spokesman that the laws were unconstitutional. House Speaker Dennis M. O'Brien (R. Phila.) did not return a call for comment, and State Sen. Vincent J. Fumo (D., Phila.) declined to comment.

Even the city's fiercest proponent of stricter gun laws in the legislature, Democratic Rep. Dwight Evans, offered only lukewarm support.

Evans spokeswoman Johnna Pro said: "No one . . . feels the frustration" of city leaders more than Evans, so he would not criticize them.

But Evans, she said, also is a leader in the House of Representatives and "believes that everyone needs to allow the process to work, even though the process, at times, may be excruciatingly slow and incredibly unresponsive."

Phil Goldsmith, president of the gun-control advocacy group CeaseFire PA, said "it's worth trying" to enact and test the laws.

"It's a shame the city has to do something like this because the legislature has failed to exercise its responsibilities," Goldsmith said.

Council members Clarke and Miller pared their package down from nine bills, including two that would create registries of gun sales, to the five that they say would stand a constitutional challenge.

Nutter embraced the idea of taking "direct action" to challenge a legal status quo to protect city residents.

"If we all sat around bemoaning what the law was on a regular basis," Nutter said. "I'd probably still be picking cotton somewhere as opposed to being mayor of the city of Philadelphia."

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Contact staff writer Jeff Shields at 215-854-4565 or jshields@phillynews.com.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; control; gun; guns; lawsuit; mayor; nra; nutter; pa; pennsylvania; philadelphia; secondamendment
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To: Bobalu

Doesn’t it, though?? I thought someone was editorializing in the headline until I read the body of the article!


21 posted on 04/11/2008 7:26:45 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a Liberal when I married her ... but she makes good kids, let me tell you!)
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To: 2banana
Why not.

What's the point of following the rules. No one else does!

22 posted on 04/11/2008 7:28:00 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Secondhand Aztlan Smoke causes drug addiction obesity in global warming cancer immigrant terrorists.)
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To: lowbridge

That is so perfect I don’t even know where to begin, other than thanking you for posting it. Brilliant.


23 posted on 04/11/2008 7:31:57 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Kill the terrorists, secure the borders, and give me back my freedom.)
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To: 2banana
As I said to my Doc Wednesday when we were BSing (after my annual check-up) about Gubmint regulations and the idiotic tax laws ...
"All people who run for office should be first required to take and 'pass' an IQ test."
(He's for the Fair, or 'Flat' Tax)
24 posted on 04/11/2008 7:33:16 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: Eurale

Nicely done!


25 posted on 04/11/2008 7:33:28 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Call BR-549)
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To: lowbridge

Colonial News Network (CNN) April 20, 1775

26 posted on 04/11/2008 7:35:56 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: lowbridge

Hear, hear!


27 posted on 04/11/2008 7:45:59 AM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: 2banana
"Almost 232 years ago, a group of concerned Americans took matters in their own hands and did what they needed to do by declaring that the time had come for a change," Nutter said as he signed the bills in front of a table of confiscated weapons outside the police evidence room in City Hall.

But he has no respect for what those concerned Americans were fighting for! His name befits him...

28 posted on 04/11/2008 8:07:47 AM PDT by Edgerunner (At the heart of every absurdity, lies a liberal lie)
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To: lowbridge

Very good! BTTT!


29 posted on 04/11/2008 8:14:44 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Heller: The defining moment of our Republic)
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To: 2banana

I had to read that 2 times just to get that his NAME was NUTTER. It just fit, then I realized it was a MSM Article, and they wouldn’t call a person by the proper term. It isn’t PC.

Nutter should get the Tar and Feathers!


30 posted on 04/11/2008 8:16:47 AM PDT by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

Rendell. As a former Philadelphia mayor, he’s sympathetic to Nutter, but since Republicans control the legislature (barely), he can’t do anything to help his buddy.


31 posted on 04/11/2008 8:17:51 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: freedomfiter2

No. He meant the Tories who voluntarily turned in their guns so there would be no American revolution.


32 posted on 04/11/2008 8:19:36 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Can’t help his buddy Nutter, but won’t help his state and it’s people.


33 posted on 04/11/2008 8:33:06 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (!)
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To: 2banana
"Mayor Nutter likened himself and City Council members yesterday to the band of rebels who formed this country as he signed five new gun-control laws that defy the state legislature and legal precedent. "Almost 232 years ago, a group of concerned Americans took matters in their own hands and did what they needed to do by declaring that the time had come for a change," Nutter said as he signed the bills in front of a table of confiscated weapons outside the police evidence room in City Hall.

"We are going to make ourselves independent of the violence that's been taking place in this city for far too long," he said. " Mayor NUTTER demonstrates his name is appropriate.

The problem with violence in the C-O-M-M-U-N-I-T-Y isn't guns, its the total breakdown of the family and the proliferation of illegitimate children and fatherless children. And its not MY problem OR that of people who don't reproduce in this fashion.

FURTHER, the Founding Fathers used guns to achieve their objectives. They didn't blame British Oppression on Brown Bess Muskets or frontier violence on trade muskets and Long rifles.

Mayor Nutter - says it all

34 posted on 04/11/2008 8:37:45 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Bobalu

Fodder and new earnings for the lawyers.

This won’t stand.


35 posted on 04/11/2008 8:40:15 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: 2banana
"I'd probably still be picking cotton somewhere as opposed to being mayor of the city of Philadelphia."

Am I to understand that Nutter used to pick cotton?

36 posted on 04/11/2008 8:50:50 AM PDT by ikka
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To: 2banana

Is this a declaration of WAR. BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!


37 posted on 04/11/2008 8:58:08 AM PDT by therut
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To: 2banana

Come on, we could pool our money together and take Philly to the cleaners. Let’s bankrupt them!


38 posted on 04/11/2008 9:05:02 AM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: 2banana
"Prohibit individuals under protection-from-abuse orders from possessing guns if ordered by the court."

What????

39 posted on 04/11/2008 9:13:39 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (I'd rather be single than wish I was.)
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To: 2banana

A couple other interpreations and neither make Nutter look good.

1: Philly’s crime problem is black on black, so this a tantamount to “redling” laws against the black community. Like an antibellum Democrat this ghostrider tactic is targeted at blacks.

2: This gesture is no more than a strawman to divert attention from his lack of courage. Unwilling to take “direct action” to address the crime culture, he signs off on these soon to be overruled laws. He then will claim he tried to solve the problem but the courts overruled him as an excuse for failure.


40 posted on 04/11/2008 9:16:41 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Truthism Watch)
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