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Same crack sniper rifle killed SEVEN British soldiers in Basra with American-made bullets
Daily Mail ^ | 9th April 2008 | Staffer

Posted on 04/09/2008 8:03:38 PM PDT by PotatoHeadMick

Seven British soldiers were shot in Basra last year by the same sniper rifle, the Ministry of Defence has revealed.

The troops were picked off one by one on the streets of the southern Iraqi city by a weapon firing high-velocity American-made bullets.

Rifleman Aaron Lincoln, 18, Kingsman Danny Wilson, 28, Kingsman Alan Jones, 20, Corporal Rodney Wilson, 30, Rifleman Paul Donnachie, 18, and two others who have not yet been named, were all killed by bullets from the same weapon, said a spokesman for the MoD.

But he could not verify that a single gunman was responsible.

Rifleman Lincoln, of the 2nd Battalion, The Rifles, was killed on April 2 last year by a single bullet that penetrated his protective glasses and helmet, an inquest in Spennymoor, County Durham, heard yesterday.

Of the five soldiers that have been identified, four were shot in April. Corporal Wilson was killed on June 7.

Ballistics expert Ann Kiernan told the inquest: "There had been several incidents where projectiles have all been discharged from the same rifle."

The bullets were made by arms manufacturer Lake City Arsenal and the hearing was told the military cannot yet provide helmets strong enough to withstand such powerful ammunition.

Rifleman Lincoln's platoon had been sent on to the city streets as part of an operation to divert enemy attention from a re-supply convoy of 30 trucks due at the British camp.

Coroner Andrew Tweddle said he was concerned the bullet had penetrated the soldier's helmet, but noted evidence given that the Army were unable to "provide a higher level of protection".

He recorded a narrative verdict of unlawful killing, adding that Rifleman Lincoln was shot by enemy fire. "He sustained a single gun shot wound to the head,' he said. 'This 5.56mm, U.S. manufactured round was not fired by friendly forces.'


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ammo; basra; fallen; iraq; snipers; uktroops
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Wouldn't you love to know how they got their hands on US made ammunition.
1 posted on 04/09/2008 8:03:39 PM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
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To: PotatoHeadMick

It’s not hard to do. We’ve left or sold literally kilotons of the stuff all over the world in the last 40 years.


2 posted on 04/09/2008 8:06:08 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Also, someone’s got some problems, because the current helmet is proof against 5.56 NATO.


3 posted on 04/09/2008 8:06:48 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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I don’t get it; are they claiming an American shot him?


4 posted on 04/09/2008 8:15:12 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: PotatoHeadMick

Blame America! It’s easy to do.


5 posted on 04/09/2008 8:15:22 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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...were all killed by bullets from the same weapon, said a spokesman for the MoD.

But he could not verify that a single gunman was responsible.

I would suspect that it's the same person firing the (same) weapon.

6 posted on 04/09/2008 8:17:39 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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The caption to the picture in the article is “Aaron Lincoln: Killed by American-made bullets”.


7 posted on 04/09/2008 8:21:27 PM PDT by james500
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To: PotatoHeadMick

We’re in the process of moving Iraqi Army away from the AKs and giving them M-16A2/M-14s.


8 posted on 04/09/2008 8:27:27 PM PDT by james500
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We need to send a Carlos sniper of our own to stalk and kill theirs.


9 posted on 04/09/2008 8:36:01 PM PDT by therut
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To: PotatoHeadMick
Do you remember three Marine snipers getting cut off and killed?
10 posted on 04/09/2008 8:36:39 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
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I have heard rumors of an Iranian shooter in Baghdad and Fallujah.
11 posted on 04/09/2008 8:37:21 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
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...the military cannot yet provide helmets strong enough to withstand such powerful ammunition.

Well, no. Military helmets are not constructed to resist direct hits by battle rifle ammunition. In fact, they never have been.

12 posted on 04/09/2008 8:38:06 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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All they have is the projectile, or bullet? (or have they located the spent brass, too?)
I'm wondering if it isn't some sort of handloader projectile, which is unique enough to identify the manufacturer. Otherwise...would NATO projectiles be as easy to identify as NATO brass is? I don't know. Not familiar enough with 5.56 NATO rounds to tell the difference. More into the 7.62, .308 basic equivilant. I don't know if one could tell for sure about those either, unless they were 146 grn. boattails, or something. Otherwise, they all look the same to me. So --- what could it be? Slightly different bases? Metallurgical signature? Saw it crosswise and look at how the lead "ball" is, and how thick or thin the case walls are? What makes it ID as U.S. manufacture?

Just tossing this out there...since I'd bet some freeper might know.

13 posted on 04/09/2008 8:44:05 PM PDT by BlueDragon (here's the thing; do recognize the bell of truth when you here it ring, c'mon and sing it children)
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To: Spktyr

How does the helmet stand up to M855 SS109 Penetrator ammo, 62 grain with steel tipped penatrating core?


14 posted on 04/09/2008 8:45:32 PM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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It’s Basra, so it could be some bad guys in the Iraqi forces.


15 posted on 04/09/2008 8:49:18 PM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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Ok, read the article at the link [after posting, in fine freeper fashion]. Lake City Arsenal, huh? Birthplace of my .308
ball ammo boattails. They work real good in an old re-worked Mauser I used to be fond of. But then that gun used to really like 180 grn Federal “Classic”. ‘Can’t seem to find that particular ammo anymore...but it was amazingly good in that old rifle. There were times I could pick off a golf ball at a hundred yrds with set-up, using iron sights, to boot. Don’t quite have the eyes for it, now.


16 posted on 04/09/2008 8:54:20 PM PDT by BlueDragon (here's the thing; do recognize the bell of truth when you here it ring, c'mon and sing it children)
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To: Spktyr
It’s not hard to do. We’ve left or sold literally kilotons of the stuff all over the world in the last 40 years.

Plus it's available through military surplus, for instance, you can buy it right from Cheaper than Dirt.

Mark

17 posted on 04/09/2008 8:57:13 PM PDT by MarkL
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Maybe your on to something. Who else make steel core 5.56?

Does that, or something similar come out of Lake City?

18 posted on 04/09/2008 8:57:21 PM PDT by BlueDragon (here's the thing; do recognize the bell of truth when you here it ring, c'mon and sing it children)
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To: PotatoHeadMick

Lake City Ammunition is a supplier to the military. The ammo could have been found locally after a battle or stolen after a convoy ambush or any number of other ways. It does not mean it was bought in the US.


19 posted on 04/09/2008 8:59:30 PM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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Wouldn't you love to know how they got their hands on US made ammunition.

Sounds more like someone has one of Saddam's hunting rifle's, ie, a 22-250 loaded with military bullets.

20 posted on 04/09/2008 9:01:44 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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