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1 posted on 04/07/2008 6:42:03 PM PDT by blam
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YEC INTREP


2 posted on 04/07/2008 6:47:56 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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I can’t really think of any fears I have. I’ve got a few strong dislikes but no real fears.


3 posted on 04/07/2008 6:50:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting CONSERVATIVE in memory of 5 children killed by illegals 2/17/08 and 2/19/ 08)
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I don’t reckon I have any phobias, although I do have something for threatening men on dark streets, but hairy spiders in the bath? I would have never have even thought of such a thing had Jim Giles not brought it up. I suspect he has a problem with hairy spiders that he is attempting to project upon others.


4 posted on 04/07/2008 7:04:09 PM PDT by KarinG1 (Opinions expressed in this post are my own and do not necessarily represent those of sane people.)
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Back in the 1920s, eugenics studies tried to determine genetic patterns in *separated* twins, raised by different families, which strongly reduced “environmental” factors in a given family.

They did discover some interesting similarities and differences, but the sample of known separated twins was so small that they were hesitant to draw conclusions, even though some seemed to be obvious, like twins both committing two of the same crime at the same age.

Unlike scientists today, who seem to have few reservations about drawing conclusions from very limited or anecdotal sources.

In the case of phobias, especially, you are not dealing with just genetic factors, by a long shot. Environmental factors such as TV shows and movies, school lessons, stories told by their friends and families, etc., all have a strong impact on psychological development.

Children are often encouraged to use their imaginations, but if they have little content with which to imagine, they won’t imagine much. However, it has been long known that if a UFO movie is aired on TV in an area, in a week or two there will be a rash of adult “alien abduction” stories. And the people will often admit to seeing the show, but draw no connection at all with their fantasies. Impressionable adults.

Children will however, make grand imaginations when given just a smattering of information. If they see the animated version of Charlotte’s Web *first*, even intimidating pictures of spiders later may have less impact on them. Or visa versa. If they see horrifying pictures of menacing spiders first, they may think of Charlotte’s Web as a horror story when they see it later.

There does seem to be a pattern of development in phobias as we age, however. Yet this may be far more developmental than genetic. For instance, infants often have a near instinctual fear of men with beards, which they do not have with the clean shaven. But this is completely lost in older children, usually.

Genetic? Not likely. The key word is “often”, not always. Plenty of infants think men’s beards are fun toys or maybe food. Yet there seems to be no genetic difference between the phobias and the non-phobias.


5 posted on 04/07/2008 7:06:58 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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The babies looked at the schematic spiders for an average of 24 seconds, but spent around 8 seconds less on the more jumbled images. This suggests babies are born with a "mental template" for spider shapes, and potentially for other things that may harm them.
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6 posted on 04/07/2008 7:14:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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Spiders are not frightening, red hourglass shapes on spider's abdomens are scary.
7 posted on 04/07/2008 7:34:01 PM PDT by JimSEA
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This supports my theory that I have a genetic predisposition to be a homophobe.

I can’t help it; I was born that way.

People need to quit trying to force me to change my natural inclinations.

I mean, when I see homosexuals on TV or in public, it makes me shiver.

And I’m scared they may discover my homophobia and taunt me or even worse.

And I doubt it is environmental. I mean, I don’t recall a traumatic experience as a small child where a homosexual came out of the closet and knocked scalding hot water on me.

No. It is inborn. Culture needs to quit insulting people like me and stop making us feel bad about who we are.


8 posted on 04/07/2008 7:40:05 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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Open high places- Aeroacrophobia.

That’s one of them. I don’t like elevators with glass walls much, either.


9 posted on 04/07/2008 8:30:39 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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Gene Simmons? Gene Autrey? Gene Gene the Dancing Machine?

They need to be more specific!


10 posted on 04/07/2008 8:46:04 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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"...it is unlikely that the babies developed a specific interest in spiders in the few months they had been alive."

But they do develop an interest in the mobiles hanging from their crib, which is what the "schematic" spiders probably reminded them of.

11 posted on 04/07/2008 9:06:15 PM PDT by csense
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For safe objects, that template appears to be missing.

Nothing like a little unconscious...or dare I say it, deliberate...bias to get the results you want. Granted, I'm not privy to the particulars of the study, but unless the infants observations (if you want to call them that)can be translated as "crying," or some similar distressful behavior, then the conclusion that these prolonged "looks" represent a recognition of danger is simply untenable.

12 posted on 04/07/2008 9:18:19 PM PDT by csense
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The writer appears to lump phobias and fears together. I have no phobias but fear many things (wasps are #1 on my list). The two are not the same.


13 posted on 04/07/2008 9:25:18 PM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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16 posted on 04/07/2008 9:37:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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18 posted on 04/09/2008 4:07:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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