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Facts About the Tax
Townhall.com ^ | Friday, April 4, 2008 | Rich Tucker

Posted on 04/07/2008 8:04:20 AM PDT by foxfield

Let’s consider a time, within living memory, when the country really was dealing with a crisis. A friend recently stumbled across a 1040 from the year 1943. There were a few things going on that year.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: fairtax; legalextortion; tax; taxes
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Rich Tucker's article is a good read for those interested in history of taxation. It looks at a 1943 tax return and compares it to today's situation. It mentions several tax reform possibilities.
1 posted on 04/07/2008 8:04:20 AM PDT by foxfield
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To: Man50D

Ping!


2 posted on 04/07/2008 8:06:49 AM PDT by foxfield
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To: foxfield

bump


3 posted on 04/07/2008 8:07:59 AM PDT by VOA
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To: foxfield

Plus, remember, the nation was in far deeper debt that had to be serviced, plus they had social security plus financing the war.

The notion that we would be “turning back the clock” by pushing for cuts in government spending that get us to a 5% taxation level has to be shown up for the nonsense that it is.


4 posted on 04/07/2008 8:10:26 AM PDT by bioqubit
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To: Man50D

ping


5 posted on 04/07/2008 8:11:30 AM PDT by groanup (After 20 years someone finally made money in gold. Now it's "I told you so".)
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To: foxfield
All Eyes on Slovakia's Flat Tax

February 2008, Vol. VIII, Issue I
The Global Flat Tax Revolution:
Lessons for Policy Makers

6 posted on 04/07/2008 8:14:34 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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Albania will have a 10 percent flat tax beginning in January 2008. The corporate rate also will be 10 percent, as will the payroll tax. The latter reform is particularly interesting since many of the flat tax nations in Eastern Europe retain punitive payroll tax rates - a policy that undermines the pro-growth and pro-employment effects of the flat tax. The Southest European Times (CATO)reports:

Re:Outsourcing,Taxes,CorporateIncentives,US snoozes-US loses

7 posted on 04/07/2008 8:21:12 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: Travis McGee

Ping.


8 posted on 04/07/2008 8:27:52 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: foxfield

WWII America also had a top marginal income tax rate of 88% (it went up to 94% for the last two years of the war) and a national debt which had increased five-fold from .5 to 2.5 trillion (year 2000 inflation adjusted) dollars between 1940-1945.


9 posted on 04/07/2008 8:55:11 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas (Opinion based on research by an eyewear firm, which surveyed 100 members of a speed dating club.)
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To: foxfield
The ugly truth is that we spent around 35 years reducing the war-time debt ratio, only to see it start to climb dramatically in the 1980s and 90s. And we were racking up that debt in a much bigger and more prosperous economy.

The Democrats may be the "Tax and Spend" party, but unfortunately the Republican party since the Nixon/Ford ear has become the "Spend But Don't Tax" party, which IMO is even worse.


10 posted on 04/07/2008 9:11:11 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas (Opinion based on research by an eyewear firm, which surveyed 100 members of a speed dating club.)
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To: foxfield; ancient_geezer; Taxman; Principled; EternalVigilance; phil_will1; kevkrom; n-tres-ted; ...
If the purpose of the "stimulus package" is to bolster the economy only on the short term by putting more money in people's pockets then why not use the same concept as a long term solution? It is clear the tax burden on the American people has increased to the oppressive point. Tinkering with the income tax code by changing the tax due date and eliminating withholding doesn't change the fact the income tax code is beyond repair. It needs to be replaced.

The answer to the above question is to replace the income tax code with a consumption tax. Congress already has the answer before its very eyes in the form of The Fair Tax Act(HR25/S1025). Momentum is growing at the grassroots level as evident by the 74 cosponsors. It's time for the rest of Congress to get on board or risk losing their jobs in the future. Fair Tax ping!
11 posted on 04/07/2008 9:27:49 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Man50D

What you said. BTTT


12 posted on 04/07/2008 9:40:56 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: Man50D

I was watching the Formula 1 race yesterday and they commented that one of the drivers had recently purchased a house in Bahrain. The reason given was the lack of income tax.

http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Story.asp?Article=213118&Sn=BNEW&IssueID=31010

Imagine how many F1 drivers would move to the U.S. with their multi-million incomes if we were the worlds largest tax haven.


13 posted on 04/07/2008 9:48:13 AM PDT by Gvl_M3 (Sometimes, you have to stand up for yourself, even if it doesn't look "Compassionate.")
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To: M. Dodge Thomas
The ugly truth is that we spent around 35 years reducing the war-time debt ratio

Which were the "war times"?

14 posted on 04/07/2008 9:50:30 AM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: foxfield
Americans will still spend more on taxes in 2008 than they will spend on food, clothing and housing combined.

There's nothing to see here, please disperse, step away from the article.
15 posted on 04/07/2008 10:00:25 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: Gvl_M3
Imagine how many F1 drivers would move to the U.S. with their multi-million incomes if we were the worlds largest tax haven.

No tax on income with a high sales tax would make the US a good place for investments and a bad place to live.

16 posted on 04/07/2008 10:24:15 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

WHO paid that top rate? I hate the progressive income tax; it’s socialist but I would bet that during WWII very few (and only the truly rich) were hit by that top rate. Today the AMT is hitting more and more middle class and the top rate is not only for the rich (hell, the truly rich have enough money NOT to pay the top rate). Even so, the reason to get rid of the Income tax is b/c of freedom and privacy it takes from US citizens.


17 posted on 04/07/2008 10:26:10 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: lucysmom
No tax on income with a high sales tax would make the US a good place for investments and a bad place to live.

Yeah b/c we don't pay income tax now....wait a minute! If we the sheople actually look at our withholding, actually pay attention to how much we make we may just find: "Americans will still spend more on taxes in 2008 than they will spend on food, clothing and housing combined.”

Oh I get it! You meant to write that a high sales tax would make the US a good place for investment and a bad place for people who pay no FREAKING taxes now (that's not even entirely true b/c of the rebate)

Just did my taxes and I'm sick of carrying the 50% who pay no taxes in this country. Time for everyone to take responsibility for this great nation.

Aw never mind. Of course we shouldn't keep the poor down by expecting them to save and not buy a new cell phone, big screen HDTV, tattoo, new car, TIVO, computers, dinners out....only I should do that so I can pay the AMT.
18 posted on 04/07/2008 10:39:54 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: foxfield; All

This is an eyeopener....

http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/22652.html

Also, it is why we now have a ruling oligarchy in the USA....


19 posted on 04/07/2008 10:44:16 AM PDT by mo
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To: lucysmom

What do you have against living in an investment friendly environment?


20 posted on 04/07/2008 10:50:45 AM PDT by groanup (After 20 years someone finally made money in gold. Now it's "I told you so".)
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