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It isn't Genocide When You're Killing a Class of People
The Virginian/NRO ^ | 4/6/2008 | Moneyrunner

Posted on 04/06/2008 8:29:50 AM PDT by moneyrunner

Jonah Goldberg comments on the Russian Duma's defense of the mass starvation of Russian farmers in the Ukraine in 1932-33. They deny claims of genocide by saying that the millions who died were of all ethnic classes.

"There is no historical proof that the famine was organized along ethnic lines. Its victims were million of citizens of the Soviet Union, representing different peoples and nationalities living largely in agricultural areas of the country," the Russian State Duma resolution said.

(Excerpt) Read more at corner.nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: genocide; stalin; starvation; ukraine
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To: Judges Gone Wild

“Under the UN’s definition of genocide, this does not qualify”

Sarcasm on?


21 posted on 04/06/2008 2:10:14 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: Mogollon

“Christianity not class is why the Soviets starved the Ukrainians.”

Make no mistake about it - this was genuine genocide against the Ukrainians as a nation.

The borders were closed off by the NKVD.
http://www.faminegenocide.com/resources/famine_map.html

Stalin also tried to destroy its oral history ( the Kobzars were the internet of the day)

http://www.bandura.org/bandura_kobzari.htm

And the “famine” deaths to “Russians” outside of Ukraine were primarily Ukrainians and other exiled groups who refused to be Russified.

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:0V34YOBgE5QJ:www.faminegenocide.com/resources/findings.html+ukrainian+famine+caucasus+genocide&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&ie=UTF-8

Finally, after killing as many Ukrainians as possible, they were replaced with Russians - genocide and ethnic cleansing.
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:EICQARJbqPMJ:www.artukraine.com/famineart/kuhner.htm+holodomor+russians+ukrainians+ethnic+cleansing&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=17&gl=us&ie=UTF-8


22 posted on 04/06/2008 2:45:37 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: muawiyah

“Definitely mass murder ~”

No it is definitely mass genocide.

the communists also targeted amish, mennonite and other fundamentalist german colonists from 1921 to 1939.

Approx 1 million were victims of genocide and thousands of their starvation letters made it back to germany and helped give rise to Hitler.

http://www.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/grhc/order/general/sinner.html


23 posted on 04/06/2008 2:50:18 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: Chode
Actually it was the middle class that they went after more then anyone else.

The rich in general were helpless without someone to give orders to and the poor in general were helpless without someone to lead. Only the middle class could act on their own.

24 posted on 04/06/2008 2:55:37 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A good marriage is like a casserole, only those responsible for it really know what goes into it.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Image hosted by Photobucket.com it's always us that gets it in the neck...
25 posted on 04/06/2008 5:00:40 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: moneyrunner

26 posted on 04/06/2008 5:13:16 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: headsonpikes
Mass death is the whole and entire purpose of socialism.

Amen, and the same purpose of Islam. They are both manifestations of Satan.

27 posted on 04/07/2008 12:50:45 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (When hopelessness replaces hope, it opens the door to evil.)
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