Absolute Victory!
Posted on 04/04/2008 9:04:33 AM PDT by CedarDave
How in what is holy do YOU know what the ad means? You progressive nut. See I can name call too. How many times are you going to repeat the word reactionary over and over and over. Shows you were uneducated at a University in the USA with the past 40 years. I think I will move to Mexico and buy some property and see if I can become a citizen of that country. I doubt it. Double standard anyone.
“mythical `Aztlan’ in the Southwest. Although it is difficult to find anyone in the Latino community outside of a few student groups or fringe groups that have ever espoused this idea,”
The author didn’t look very hard.....
“You old white people. It is your duty to die.”
HISPANIC LEADERS SPEAK OUT!
Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets; “Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die . . . Through love of having children, we are going to take over.
Richard Alatorre, Los Angeles City Council. “They’re afraid we’re going to take over the governmental institutions and other institutions. They’re right. We will take them over . . . We are here to stay.”
Excelsior, the national newspaper of Mexico, “The American southwest seems to be slowly returning to the jurisdiction of Mexico without firing a single shot.”
Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas; “We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population . . . I love it. They are shitting in their pants with fear. I love it.”
Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party, “Remember 187 — proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non-citizens — was the last gasp of white America in California.”
Gloria Molina, Los Angeles County Supervisor, “We are politicizing every single one of these new citizens that are becoming citizens of this country ... I gotta tell you that a lot of people are saying, “I’m going to go out there and vote because I want to pay them back.”
Mario Obledo, California Coalition of Hispanic Organizations and California State Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare under Governor Jerry Brown, also awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Bill Clinton, “California is going to be a Hispanic state. Anyone who doesn’t like it should leave.”
Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General , “We are practicing ‘La Reconquista’ in California.”
Professor Fernando Guerra, Loyola Marymount University; “We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos ...”
Are these just the words of a few extremists? Consider that we could fill up many pages with such quotes. Also, consider that these are mainstream Mexican leaders.
http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=professor
Uh just look at the ad.
Yet, ANOTHER reason I don’t subscribe to the ABQ Journal. It only represents the interests and views of the the wacko liberals to our north (Santa Fe). If the UNM student had pulled down and destroyed a US flag, the ACLU would be running to defend him and the ABQ Journal would be loudly defend his right to “freedom of speech”.
And parana, and crocodiles, and...stuff....
You open-borders theology is increasingly mired in hatred for America.
The ad is NOT "in English". The legally trademarked advertising slogn "IN AN ABSOLUT WORLD" remains in English for the sole reason that it IS, in fact, a legally trademarked phrase, like McDonald's "I'm lovin' it". The singular difference being that Absolut has not chosen to trademark the phrase in any language other than English, whereas McDonald's has trademarked their ad slogan in several languages.
Other than that trademarked slogan, the remainder of the text appearing in the ad is "en Español".
As for your deep "interpretation" that the ad intends to convey the idea that what is dipicted will ONLY happen in an alcoholic stupor induced dream...you REALLY have to read into it quite a bit to get that back out. That interpretation is most certainly not "up front", nor is it at all the FIRST, most obvious message being communictaed. As such, I HIGHLY DOUBT that your interpretation is even remotely near the intended message.
The man on the street will read it as it is intended to be read -- in PLAIN language. Mahogany Row doesn't target philosophers in the halls of academia, their ads are directed at the plain-speaking midsection of the population; at those who take plain words in their plain sense. And when this ad is read in plain language the VERY OBVIOUS meaning is "This is how the map would look if the world were as perfect as our product".
IOW, "Since we believe our product is excellent, we also believe that this map represents an excellent reality."
Or again, "If we had it our way, which we believe to be the BEST way, everyone would drink ABSOLUT when they drink vodka, and the map would look like this."
Your dogged insistence that the ad NOT be construed in any of those very literal ways, arises from the same alternate universe that has a whole slew of people amongst the global population continuing to disbelieve that radical Islamists fully intend to do the things they say they want to do -- like kill infidels -- despite the fact that radical Islamists continue to DO exactly what they say they want to do. This flock of fingers-embedded-in-ears naysayers watch the terrorist lips move as the words come out, then give apology for them saying things like, "Well, they're just disgruntled; they don't really mean that's what they will actually do. We just need to sit down with them and talk this whole thing out. A little smokin' of the peace pie and chillin' together with some downtempo, and it'll all be cool, man."
Yeah. Right.
As if the stacked bodies of the victims of these wahabbi freaks don't all but SCREAM, "Screw you, and your talk, you infidel dog!"
This idea that the American southwest ought to be part of Mexico is held by a minority, but they are an increasing number, they are increasingly militant, and they are frequently tied into armed, violent gangs running drugs and human cargo across our borders. Among their ranks, this is not a dream to be realized only in an alcoholic stupor, it is a great and noble goal. THEY are deadly serious about it, and if they are not met with a commensurate response, while they will not realize their grand goal at once, they will continue to make incremental progresss toward it, and THAT cannot be allowed to happen. So, we MUST respond, and our response ust be firm and vigorous, so that OUR clear message will be, "ABSOLUT-ly NOT at any future date. EVER."
Our goal MUST BE to ensure that there never emerges even the faintest whisp of a possibility that their goal could even begin to be realized -- on any level.
YOUR goal, however, seems to be to aid them in their goal by throwing up this smokescreen, "Oh, don't get all worked up; they don't REALLY mean that," when they, most manifestly, DO mean exactly that. All you succeed in doing is playing the traitor, and giving cover for true enemies of the United States.
As I read you, though, that isn't a fringe group that it is your purpose to side with. So do make greater effort NOT to side with them by accident, either.
Uh I guess that conflicts your paranoid brain, that English is losing its influence in the world.
Oh, I see the game here; you’ve been taking lessons from the DNC: a point in your argument is soundly refuted, therefore you change the subject.
You cannot tell me why your view is more correct than mine, mainly because it isn’t, so instead you brush aside your loss, and come back at me with playground name-calling and the scarcely relevant accusation that English is losing influence in the world.
That’s lame.
You lose.
Only in your paranoid brain.
What are you talking about? I am just saying it is best not to react until we are sure we know the full story behind the situation. How many times have we gotten burned for knee jerking about something?
Dane? I didn’t change the subject, I asked you to prove your slanderous accusation. You’ve offered no evidence or proof to back up what you said, and that’s definately staying “on subject.” It’s been fun, but you fail.
Never mind on my comments on 36- you pinged me and I thought you were responding to a comment I made on a similar thread on this topic...
Still.. I think it is best if we ensure this is legit and the message before we run off and react.
Yep.
“I am just saying it is best not to react until we are sure we know the full story behind the situation. “
What is it that you are in doubt about?
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