Posted on 03/31/2008 9:57:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Edited on 09/24/2008 11:31:19 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Oooohhhh you should have saved that for the next Freepathon. Might have brought in a few more $
Thanks, Jim! My faith in conservatism is renewed.
If the politics in the White House don't (can't with this list of possibilities) get any better, and the Republicans cannot take back the Senate (unlikely, too many seats to defend), then the House of Representatives will be the last ditch defense for sanity in the whole federal government.
That's a large reason I am running for one of the seats the Repubs never should have lost, and must retake, if there is any serious chance of retaking the majority in the House.
Congressman Billybob
Thanks, Jim. It seems some Freepers need to be reminded that this is a conservative website, not a Republican one. There are places on the net where one can cheer for McCain without receiving conservative critism in response, but this is not one of them.
On DU, they’ve put out the word that once a Dem nominee is decided upon, posters WILL fall in line and cease criticism of him/her. That is the way liberals think, and it is a recipe for totalitarianism. That is NOT the way conservatives think, and the country (not to mention this forum) is better for it.
>>What about Dagny and Frisco? SecState and SecDef?
I think Ragnar Danneskjold would be either SecDef or Homeland Security.
Dagny would be good at SecState.
Frisco would be SecDef, Homeland Security or perhaps even SecOfInterior (copper mining background).
I’m a big fan of Ayn Rand. I just wish she had found a way to include spirituality and/or charity in her world.
“Why was there never a McCain truth file at the time when it might have done some good?”
Because McCain was doing so poorly, no one thought he was a threat. He simply rose to the top like spoiled milk.
FR Polls.....many didn’t even list McCain because he had so little support, often he scored below “other”......members only scores...
(6/11) Who do you support in the GOP presidential primaries?
Fred Thompson 50.5% 1,433
Duncan Hunter 18.6% 527
Mitt Romney 6.7% 191
Ron Paul 6.7% 190
Rudy Giuliani 5.9% 168
Undecided/pass 4.7% 133
Tom Tancredo 4.4% 124
Mike Huckabee 1.1% 31
Other 1.1% 30
John McCain 0.4% 12
(1/22) With FRed dropping out, who do you now support for the Republican nomination?
Mitt Romney 51.8% 1,092
None of the above 20.5% 433
Staying home 6.7% 141
Rudy Giuliani 5.3% 111
Mike Huckabee 4.2% 88
John McCain 3.5% 73
Anyone but Mac 3.4% 71
Anyone but Huck 2.1% 44
Anyone but Rudy 1.9% 40
Anyone but Mitt 0.8% 17
(1/17) Which candidate would you like to see win in South Carolina?
Fred Thompson 64.0% 1,078
Duncan Hunter 17.0% 287
Mitt Romney 11.0% 186
Mike Huckabee 3.0% 51
Rudy Giuliani 2.5% 42
John McCain 2.4% 40
(12/20) Today’s FOX News Poll has Giuliani, McCain and Huckabee tightly clustered at 20%, 19% and 19%, followed by Romney and Thompson at 11% and 10%. Which one of these five would you prefer?
Thompson 72.8% 1,579
Romney 11.9% 257
Giuliani 6.1% 133
Huckabee 5.3% 114
McCain 3.9% 85
(12/4) Rasmussen today lists Giuliani and Huckabee tied at 18% each, closely followed by McCain with 14%, Thompson with 13% and Romney at 12%. If the GOP primary were held today and these were your choices, which one would you choose?
Thompson 66.6% 1,708
Romney 12.9% 332
Huckabee 10.0% 257
Giuliani 8.1% 208
McCain 2.3% 60
(10/23) Who would you vote for if you were not afraid that your candidate might not win?
Duncan Hunter 37.4% 949
Fred Thompson 24.5% 621
Rudy Giuliani 6.9% 174
Ron Paul 6.5% 165
Mike Huckabee 6.3% 160
Mitt Romney 6.1% 155
Tom Tancredo 5.0% 127
Alan Keyes 4.0% 101
Other 2.2% 57
John McCain 1.1% 28
(9/9) Who do you support for president?
Fred Thompson 48.5% 1,772
Duncan Hunter 20.2% 739
Other/undecided 6.4% 234
Ron Paul 6.3% 231
Mitt Romney 5.9% 214
Rudy Giuliani 5.8% 211
Tom Tancredo 3.2% 116
Mike Huckabee 2.8% 101
John McCain 0.7% 24
Sam Brownback 0.4% 14
4/08 Who do you support in the GOP presidential primaries?
Fred Thompson 44.9% 1,917
Duncan Hunter 14.1% 603
Rudy Giuliani 9.5% 407
Newt Gingrich 9.1% 387
Ron Paul 5.7% 245
Undecided/pass 5.5% 234
Mit Romney 4.9% 208
Tom Tancredo 4.3% 185
Other 1.2% 52
John McCain 0.8% 35
2/08 If the short list for Republican Nominee were narrowed down to the following, which one would you favor?
Duncan Hunter 26.7% 984
Newt Gingrich 25.6% 944
Rudy Giuliani 13.9% 512
Tom Tancredo 10.2% 377
Undecided/pass 8.3% 308
Mitt Romney 7.8% 287
Ron Paul 6.0% 222
John McCain 1.5% 55
*********1/08 According to a posted article entitled “McCain Starts Planning for 2008 Run” Senator John McCain is considered the front-runner for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination. Would you be for or against McCain?
against 92.4% 3,059
for 7.6% 252
Over a year ago....
If Romney, McCain, and Giuliani were the only names on the ballot for the GOP 2008 nomination, whom would you vote for?
Giuliani 44.0% 1,369
Romney 31.5% 982
Sit it out 19.7% 613
McCain 4.8% 150
If the 2008 Republican primary for president were held today and the following candidates were listed on your ballot, which one would you choose?
Tom Tancredo 25.3% 714
George Allen 21.7% 610
Newt Gingrich 17.9% 504
Rudy Giuliani 12.1% 340
Jeb Bush 9.7% 272
Mike Pence 4.2% 117
Mitt Romney 3.4% 97
Sit it out 3.2% 90
John McCain 1.6% 44
Bill Frist 1.0% 29
I guess we should then question our collective judgment.
He admitted in a candid remark at a Christmas party in Macon County, my home, that "Nancy would never let it get out of committee." She also has prevented 39 of the 48 Democrats who co-sponsored it, from signing the Discharge.
Heath Shuler caused the defeat of his own bill, by voting in Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House. That's one of the reasons I'm running against Shuler; to hang Pelosi around his neck like a dead albatross so the conservative Republicans AND Democrats in Western Carolina will kick Heath Shuler to the curb.
It is pathetic that all sorts of people in Congress and out have gotten their knickers in a twist over what started out as a ploy to get one inadequate Democrat reelected in Buncombe County, NC. BTW, the word "bunk" originated from a speech given by another inadequate Congressman from this District, nearly a century ago.
John / Billybob
“I guess we should then question our collective judgment.”
No, rhombus, just the opposite. Ignorance is electing John McCain and the media telling us nothing except he is a war hero.
Voters Unaware Of Candidates’ Immigration Positions - McCain Supporters Worst Informed
“”Only 34 percent of McCain voters, 42 percent of Clinton voters, and 52 percent of Obama voters correctly identified their candidate as favoring eventual citizenship for illegal immigrants who meet certain requirements.....Of McCain voters, 35 percent mistakenly thought he favored enforcement that would cause illegals to return home, another 10 percent thought he wanted mass deportations, and 21 percent didn’t know his position.””
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1994866/posts
He did NOT have “failing finances”. He had moles in his staff and he couldn’t root them out.
Then why wasn't or isn't there a McCain truth file? If our judgment is so good, that is?
May I ask the point of the vanity? Are you simply clarifying your position, or something else?
As I said in post 149...
“Why was there never a McCain truth file at the time when it might have done some good?”
Because McCain was doing so poorly, no one thought he was a threat. He simply rose to the top like spoiled milk.
I find there be 6 litmus tests to be a conservative according to your estimation--repeal McCain-F, repudiate amnesty, repudiate global warming, drop support for embryonic stem research and stop talking about partnering with Democrts.
Assume that the chance for any one view is 50/50. Then 1/2 X 1/2x 1/2x1/2x1/2x1/2x 1/2=128. If these beliefs are independent and each occurs at 50% you are going to find only one person in 128 who ascribes to all your views.
Of course, you can claim or imply that a real conservative would have all of these litmus tests, but the problem would remain for you to guess at the number of people that hold all six even though some may be cross correlated.
In any case, no matter what the calculation you are going to have those who do not agree with you on one or several of six litmust tests. Are they to be scorned as well?
This can only result in an immediate limitation of members in the group and with further litmus tests, even fewer. The recipe you give is exclusionary and likely to result in fewer and fewer members in the chosen, "real" conservative group. Further, human nature is such that being excluded hardens differences that latter impair the ability to cooperate and succeed in a mutually agreed upon effort.
Yuh know what is ironic, if there had been a national primary day as some on FR have been clamoring for, guess who probably would have won, Guiliani.
Why isn’t this in breaking news? If I have to see someone yelling at me to shut my stinking trap whenever I look at the breaking news sidebar, I’d like to see this thread there too.
Sure I can buy the fact that we listened to our own propaganda and didn’t bother worrying about McCain during the primaries (i.e., bad judgment on our part). So NOW, why isn’t there a McCain truth file? This thread has a bunch of people whining about McCain and inferring that no one knows how bad he is... and yet we STILL have no McCain truth file. Time to put up or shut up.
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