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Geesh, even social communists dictators all down through history had their admirers. Good for you CG.

LOL, haven't seen something this inane on the forum in years.

By now, most McCain haters will have already skipped down to the comments section to post their expletives and tell me how it’s a free country and they have a 1st Amendment right, etc. to yammer on and on about how bad McCain sucks, totally missing the point of my post, again.

Oh boo hoo, sniff sniff, sob sob... good heavens Cinnamon Girl, don't you think there could be a few reasons why folks could reasonably balk at voting for the likes of John McCain. I don't think folks are missing your point. They're DISmissing your point.

But I’m here to tell you, in this free country, that in my opinion, you should SHUT YOUR STINKIN TRAP!

I know you tried to dismiss the First Amendment rights of fellow forum participants above, but I'm not signing on to that plan, so your comment here is nothing if not unfortunate.

To all you ingrates, rageaholics, and self-absorbed punks, WE KNOW YOU HATE MCCAIN.

Actually, to the hard of understanding, I'd like to express my hatred of what he has done, advocated and still advocates. If it qualifies me as a punk to state that John McCain is unfit to hold public office, so be it.

You can give yourself a rest now and stop posting on every single thread the same exact comments.

Folks like myself are posting the exact same comments over and over because those comments don't seem to be sinking in. That you could come here and read those comments over and over, by your own admission, and still not get it, is exactly why those comments need to be posted over and over again.

I’m not going to name names, but I will if I have to.

Go ahead, First Amendment and all... Better yet, why not make a list and share it around who all those evil people are who hate what John has done and stood for over the years. What better way to ISOLATE THEM, SINGLE THEM OUT FOR THE SPECIAL ATTENTION THEY DESERVE!!! Why you could even start a daily prayer thread or McCain day in pictures thread to adore the man in mass.

I think we all know by now who I’m talking about. The folks who post the same pictures and the same comments on EVERY SINGLE THREAD. We got it.

No... you haven't gotten it. You are so danged loyal to the Republican party that you would vote for Benedict Arnold as long as he had the damned (R) after his name. For the record, Benedict Arnold was a decorated leader in the Revolutionary War. He had acted brilliantly on behalf of the new nation while serving in our military. Sound familiar? Still, the time came when folks had to abandon Arnold. The same holds true for one John McCain. I have abandoned him. You see, I'm the kind of silly punk who wouldn't have voted for Arnold after he revealed his true colors, just to keep another person out of public office.

You aren’t voting for McCain. Fine. Time to move on.

Why should I have to move on? Am I some second-class citizen on this forum? Are the others who recognize John McCain for the problem he is supposed to be relegated to second class citizenship right along with me? There's that pesky First Amendment again. Drat...

Perhaps my best retort would have been, "You are voting for McCain. Fine. Time to move on." I'm guessing that didn't work. Do you think your admonission did?

Yes, that’s my opinion.

Oh we recognized and duely noted that from the first letter of the first word of the first sentence on, but thanks.

You have had enough time to accept the reality that John Sidney McCain III, WAR HERO, is the Republican nominee.

Is that the same war hero that interceded on Charles Keating IIIs behalf, to help him bilk more billions out of retirees tired worn out hands? Perhaps it's the same war hero that urged his coleagues in the Senate of the United States to put the issue of MIAs in Vietnam to rest, so normalized relations could procede. Is it the same John McCain who has pronounced that water boarding is wrong, that Guantanamo should be closed and that terrorists should be housed in our lower forty-eight states? Is it the same war hero that voted to confirm Supreme Court Justices Ginsberg, Kennedy and Souter? I just want to make sure I have the right war hero.

Some folks on FR have used this time to learn more about Johnny, realize that he isn’t as bad as they thought, grow up, act like adults, and get in gear to vote for him.

Well that sounds swell, but I have to tell you I see it somewhat differently. I have learned a lot more about John, and it caused me to be unable to support the man for anything. It's interesting to me that folks could learn so much about him and still get in gear to vote for him. I certainly wouldn't label that as being/acting like an adult though. Adults when presented with the truth generally incorporate that truth into their decision making. The only way someone could still vote for Johnny would be to totally ignore the truth. And that's precisely what you have done.

John is running against Obama and Clinton. Thus it doesn't matter what John has done. You wouldn't care if he was an ax murderer as long as Clinton and Obama didn't get voted in. And for the life of me, I can't see any difference in that stance than backing Bill Clinton during the 90s simply because the left didn't want George Bush or Bob Dole as president.

If your guy is soiled, you can't back him even if you wish like hell you could. I wish like hell I could. I can't support this guy. End of story for me.

Some of you have decided not only to beat your collective dead horse everyday, banging out the same tiresome gripes about McCain on every thread, but you’ve also gotten increasingly VITRIOLIC. I’m talking about the following trash:

Oh please do...

1. Saying McCain isn’t really a war hero because (insert stupid lie here.)

I am somewhat neutral on John's military war heroship. He may in fact be a real hero. There are parts of it I certainly do admire. There does seem to be an underlying suspicion that John isn't the war hero some have made him out to be though, but I generally don't go down that road. Still, I just don't really know.

2. Declaring that McCain urged the U.S. government to leave other POWs back in Vietnam (for what reason would he do this exactly? Don’t bother, I don’t want to hear your lies anymore.)

Well dear, it isn't a lie to note that John did advocate putting the MIA issue to rest so that normalized relations with Vietnam could transpire. Please explain to me why John would need to do that. Why would a man, any man let alone a member of the military and a former VC prisoner, advocate putting the issue of MIAs to rest ever? Perhaps you have a good reason to justify this. I sure can't think of one.

If you want to get a good look at the real John McCain, sorta get a full measure of the man, I would suggest you view John's treatment of the representative (Dolores Alfond) of the National Aliance of (MIA) Families in this YouTube video. For the record, this woman is merely advocating on behalf of MIA families. Note how Johnny allows the woman to respectfully disagree, and get her points across. /s He does so by ripping her left and right, only allowing her a few short quips over eight and a half mintues, then stomping out of the meeting without listening to her response or follow-up questions. LINK

3. Insulting other FR posters who like or support Johnny by using profanity, vulgarity, and name calling. YOU ARE DIMINISHING FR with your hostile posts—this kind of stuff belongs on low rent leftie sites like DU, or Daily Kos, not FREE REPUBLIC, the shining star of conservative websites.

Well, you're entitled to your opinion, but I've got to tell you that I don't know of anything that could be more destructive to a Conservative forum than advocating for a consumate leftist on it's threads. That kind of stuff actually does belong on DU or Daily KOS, not Free Republic. What is contributory to a shining star Conservative website about that? Seriously.

4. AND FINALLY, the filthiest load in the McCain Haters’ verbal trebuchet: wishing, hoping or praying that John Sidney McCain III would come to some misfortune which would prevent him from living to be President.

I'll have to agree here. If Jonny were to destroy the Conservative movement in the United States, I would by far prefer that than natural causes take their course. /s You just go ahead and pray for John to live another eight years. I may just sit that one out though. Hope you don't mind.

THIS IS BY FAR THE MOST DISGUSTING.

I'm sobbing so hard right now, it's amost impossible to type. /s Seriously, destroying Conservatism and the resultant impact on the United States wouldn't be worse than a few tactless comments on a bulletin board? We do have our priorities in order don't we...

How can you wish that a decent, G-d fearing man who suffered and sacrificed out of love for this country, who, BY THE GRACE OF G-D, survived five years of torture and imprisonment only to return to service in the military—how could you wish him anything but a long, long life?

I don't go around wishing ill on anyone including John McCain, but if God sees fit to take him sooner rather than later, it's His will that will be done. I'm not going to shed one tear over the demise of this so called man. I'm not going to pray for him to live long and prosper at the expense of our nation. As for him being decent, surely you jest. Again, please go over to YouTube and watch the videos of this guy attacking person after person for disagreeing with him or merely asking the wrong question.

You trot out part of his sterling career, but nobody is supposed to trot out the rest of his sordid career. And if they do, everyone is supposed to recognize it as nothing more than an example of vitriolic hatred, all lies and the stuff of DU or KOS.

What bothers me about John's known history after his sterling military service, is that it reveals a man whose character had already been formed by the time he entered public service in Congress and the Senate. If he was the military professional you state he was, he would have had boat-loads of character and devotion to doing what was right. That can hardly be described as the John McCain we have all come to know and not love post military service. It calls to question at least as a ponderance, what his true character was like in the military. At least it does for me.

Before you challenge that 'we have all come to know' statement, I'd like to point out to you that we have been slamming McCain constantly over the last nine years, for the jerk he was during that period in time. It flabberghasts me that some of you have completely forgotten those years, or have chosen to set it aside so that the likes of this sorry excuse for a man could be considered viable to as a candidate for the presidency.

Shameful.

I know you're refering to those who don't think John is just swell, but I happen to think it's shameful to support the likes of John McCain in any way shape or form. The man is unfit to hold public office and he has proven it time and again.

And don’t DARE try to suggest that you are any better in moral character or principle than the angry liberal scum who wish ill upon President Bush or our troops.

We don't have to because it's preposterous to claim we aren't. Your looney comments fail on their own merits. They don't need our help.

If your definition of “conservative” is to rage daily and most repulsively against our next President, then please call me a “right wing Reaganite traditionalist” because I want no part of your scene.

I'm not going to call you anything, but based on your comments here, I certainly wouldn't use the term 'right wing Reaganite traditionalist' if I were to. Reagan actually had character and it's quite clear you don't want to be a part of the scene that includes his most ardent supporters. Using Reagan in an attempt to buttress the likes of John McCain truly is an act that truly qualifies as "SHAMEFUL".

I realize that some talk show hosts like Laura Ingraham, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity don’t like Johnny, but I don’t recall hearing them praying for his untimely demise. No, that is the talk of the dregs of society, not adults who have their act together.

Well, most of the dregs I've run into lately are quite happy to back John McCain. I wouldn't particularly refer to them as adults or having their act together, but that's a subjective personal opinion and I recognize that. You and they are certainly entitled to a different opinion.

And just a heads up to all the McCain haters: I am ignoring your tirades henceforth.

Well... we do appreciate it. I don't expect you to adopt this policy though. If you like John you should defend him and call folks on the fact that they don't. I disagree stridently with you, but that's life.

I can’t stop you from posting your garbage, but I certainly don’t have acknowledge it.

No, you don't. And you don't even have to admit how terribly wrong you are either.

Basically, the point of posts from people who like Johnny these days is to share daily news: tracking polls, statements he has made, who he is touring with, speeches he has given, leaders he has met with, etc.

No, the point is not just to merely mention things John has done or is doing. It is to garner support for John. His supporters hope to post things that enhance his image in the absense of anything negative. Folks like myself see those efforts as disinformation, and seek to remind folks who the real John McCain is. John has a rich paper trail. It should be of no surprise to anyone that a large segment of Conservatives consider him to be the ilk of weakening the underpinnings of Conservatism and thereby our nation. We just aren't going to sit idly by and watch this guy slipped under the transom. If you folks want to ignore who John really is fine, but you're going to have to vote for the man having been exposed to all things McCain, not just all things favorable to McCain.

What is YOUR point?

To see John McCain's political career end on November 4th, 2008.

To seek out people to commiserate with?

Yes, surprisingly Conservatives do like to congregate with other Conservatives and discuss Conservative matters.

To insult fellow conservatives who’ve decided having a responsible leader in a time of war trumps giving the GOP a spanking?

I don't know of any Conservatives who think John McCain is a responsible leader after looking into his past, or looking at who he is today. Either one disqualifies him.

To try and rally others to joins the haters camp?

You know what, I am a hater and proud of it. I hate liberalism because it's evil, and I hate evil. I don't know about the others, but you sure have me pegged. As a result of my hatred, I am trying to get other haters to join me. Please come hate with me.

Are you going to do this for the next several years?

I'll be outing John McCain until he leaves public office. If that's in November great. If not I'll comment negatively about him every time I see his foul name pop up.

If so, the best advice I can give to the non-haters is to wade through the rage and seek out the decent and the productive on FR.

Yes, please do urge others to put blinders on and go through life as you are, unwilling to listen to the slightest tinge of sanity as it relates to John McCain.

Do not waste your time debating the haters, because they seem to thrive on self-righteousness and rage.

No, don't waste your time listening to folks who don't like what McCain says or does. They are consumately unfair to a man who would do such things. People who have looked into his past and recognized him for what he is aren't going to listen... those silly fools. /s

You know, I find it really strange to read remarks here from a person who thinks that those that redicule John's actions as they relate to Keating, the MIA issue, votes for Ginsberg and the like, closing Guantanamo and all that goes with that and his terrible treatment of just about anyone who disagrees with him, could have to be self-righteous and full of rage to do so. Yikes. Is this truly what you believe or have you simply gotten worked up and forgotten just what John McCain is.

Try as they might, they have given absolutely no GOOD reason to allow a dem to win the presidency.

This begs the question, are you even reading this forum anymore? I have posted plenty of reasons why it would be better if John doesn't get elected. You just aren't reading those posts or absorbing what they have to say. Or perhaps you just think I'm a lamebrain and dismiss my comments. I'll tell you what. Continue to think I'm a lamebrain for the rest of eternity if you like, but please quit dismissing who and what John McCain is.

Their continued daily rantings about why they hate McCain, on EVERY thread about him, only serve to define their insanity.

LOL, so people who don't agree with you are now insane. I'll let that stand on it's own. I think it says far more than I could about your current condition.

I seek out those of like mind. G-d Bless John Sidney McCain III.

I would say God bless McCain if he is truly righteous. I guess that's really the act of a self-righteous individual though.

P.S. McCain haters, please review the link in order to familiarize yourselves with the sound of Skank's voice so you can hear his directive in your head when you are about to post something vile.

Lets see, I've read your rant and found it to be pitiful. Now, I would want to take your advice here because...?

...beat your collective dead horse everyday, banging out the same tiresome gripes about McCain on every thread, but you’ve also gotten increasingly VITRIOLIC...

1. Saying McCain isn’t really a war hero because (insert stupid lie here.)
Ok, so why IS he a war hero? I'm dont throw around the term 'hero' and being a POW does not make one a hero. (Insert your stupid lie here)

3. Insulting other FR posters ... by using profanity, vulgarity, and name calling. YOU ARE DIMINISHING FR with your hostile posts—this kind of stuff belongs on low rent leftie sites like DU, or Daily Kos, not FREE REPUBLIC, the shining star of conservative websites.
Are these the same kinds of names and vitriol YOU call/use against the people that wont vote for McLame, such as, but not limited to, ingrates (I'm sorry, what's he done for me), rageaholics (a charge better reserved for McLame), self-absorbed punks (I admit, I wont vote for him because it's all about me), grow up (No, and I'll hold my breath so I wont have to), act like adults (an argument better reserved for you).

Am I a terrorist sympathiser now? That's what YOUR side called me because I'm against McCain.

Contrary to your belief that a disagreement means the other side should shut up, I think your kind should keep your mouth open. I just dont think you should be standing on your feet when you do it....

I don’t hate McCain, nor am I a McCain apologist. I am deeply disappointed that the GOP nomination process came to a point where the “best” the GOP could come up with was to choose between McCain, Romney, Huckabee, or Rudy. That said, while McCain is woefully inadequate to get this conservative enthused about the election, he is light years better than either hillary rodham or Barak Obama.

We must do whatever is necessary to prevent such an obamination to the country that either democrat candidate would bring, so I will hold my nose and vote for McCain on November 4.

Here here! I’m with you Cinnamon Girl.

LOL!~ You sure opened a can of worms CG! Sheesh. I agree though, there is no point to McCain-haters continually repeating themselves. I find them tedious and boring and wonder what they think they will accomplish. Sort of like the Hucksters, who finally and thankfully have slunk away.

McCain was my 4th choice for president this year. I wanted Newt, but he wouldn’t run. Then I wanted Duncan Hunter. He had no shot. Then I wanted Fred Thompson. He disappointed everyone.

McCain is solid on the most important issue of our time: the war against radical Islam.

There is NO issue that is close to being as important.

It’s not about hating McCain.

McCain hates everything that America is about, and that is the essence of his media-contrived candidacy.

For the hate-America gang, this election is a Win-Win-Win situation.

I am so hurt.

The only thing I can do now is find a stray dog to kick.

sniff!

John McCain does not have core conservative values that are important to me, therefore I will not vote for him; I will skip that line on the ballot. If you believe this means I hate McCain, then put me on your hate McCain list. Your post is totally hateful, ridiculous, and you use low life language as in “SHUT Your Stinking Trap!” Your need an English course so you can learn to use proper English descriptive words.

Don't worry, I plan to donate to his campaign.

Not surprising from a supporter of the guy that brought us Mccain-Feingold. I am sure your well articulated ~~ranting~~ er... 'viewpoint' persuaded many that see him as s suboptimal candidate to change their minds. 'SHUT Your Stinking TRAP' is always a compelling counter argument and really establishes the moral high ground of the debate.

Congrats. This is the most ignorant vanity I’ve seen all week.

And by the way, I’m still not voting for McCFR.

Insulting other FR posters who like or support Johnny by using profanity

Johnny?

You call him Johnny?

Isn't that just precious.

Johnny is an open borders traitor.

Stay away from tall buildings come Nov.

Incoming!

Aw, how did I miss this thread until now?

Well, better late than never.

McCain SUCKS.

I am ignoring your tirades henceforth. I can’t stop you from posting your garbage

Ahhh c'mon, tell us how you really feel.

Seriously, do you feel better now that you've vented your obvious frustrations? Sorry. Couldn't be helped. My psychology class just left to go to lunch.

I don't hate McCain but I do hate the fact that he has cloaked himself as a "conservative" while taking every opportunity to destroy & disrupt conservative causes and goals. He has shown by his voting history where he truly stands. I think he's sold his soul for a seat at the big table of power.

Having said all that, I'll still hold my nose and vote for him because while I think the results will be the same as a win for the RATS, I think the journey will take a little longer and offer a less jarring transition and thus allow me more time to get prepped to accept the inevitable.

I suggest they start their own website.

They can call it “wehateeveryonebutourguysoweregoingtopout.com”