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Experts: Teacher-student sex is abuse, no matter what
Newsday.com ^ | March 28, 2008 | SOPHIA CHANG AND CHRISTINE ARMARIO

Posted on 03/28/2008 11:51:04 AM PDT by kingattax

When it comes to teachers and students, there is no such thing as consensual sex, experts said yesterday.

The power differential is too exploitative in those sexual encounters, said Charol Shakeshaft, a former Hofstra University professor who now teaches educational leadership at Virginia Commonwealth University and is an expert on sexual abuse in schools.

"It's a violation of trust and professional boundaries," Shakeshaft said of the March 20 encounter Nassau police say happened between Heather Kennedy, 25, a math teacher at Wantagh High School, and a 16-year-old boy who is a student at the school.

Kennedy was arraigned yesterday on charges of statutory rape and endangering the welfare of a child. The age of sexual consent in New York State is 17, police said.

Even if the boy wasn't in Kennedy's class, Shakeshaft said the mere fact that he attended the same school indicates "sexual exploitation and bad judgment," she said.

And when the teacher is a woman and the student is a boy, the sensationalist aspects of these liaisons are magnified, Shakeshaft said.

"I believe that females get a lot more attention [in the media] because I think it adds another dimension," she said. "People don't seem to think it's child abuse then."

It's a double standard fueled by popular perceptions of older women with younger men, according to Mike Lew, a Brookline, Mass., psychotherapist who has treated and written about survivors of childhood sexual abuse.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...


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the expert is someone named "SHAKESHAFT" ? you can't make this stuff up
1 posted on 03/28/2008 11:51:05 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

This so-called “expert” doesn’t even raise the issue of the most critical criterion for determining guilt or innocence.


2 posted on 03/28/2008 11:54:06 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: kingattax
Even if the boy wasn't in Kennedy's class, Shakeshaft said the mere fact that he attended the same school indicates "sexual exploitation and bad judgment," she said.

Had to re-read that line a few times.
3 posted on 03/28/2008 11:55:12 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: kingattax

Wow!
Sadly, something so obvious has to be discussed.


4 posted on 03/28/2008 11:56:09 AM PDT by najida (On FR- Everyman is Brad Pitt, Everywoman is Aunt Bea)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Exactly


5 posted on 03/28/2008 11:57:00 AM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: kingattax

“It’s a double standard fueled by popular perceptions of older women with younger men, according to Mike Lew, a Brookline, Mass., psychotherapist who has treated and written about survivors of childhood sexual abuse.”

Um, I doubt the teen boys who nailed their teacher’s assistant would seriously think they were victims.


6 posted on 03/28/2008 11:57:49 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: najida

In the old days, we didn’t need experts to tell us the obvious. Are we so dumbed down with publik ejukeishun that we need them now?


7 posted on 03/28/2008 11:58:00 AM PDT by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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To: Slapshot68

One of the sickest men I’ve ever known was initiated into sex via a family friend. Granted, he doesn’t think he’s twerked in the head, but the women he’s been involved with and the courts say he is.....


8 posted on 03/28/2008 11:59:01 AM PDT by najida (On FR- Everyman is Brad Pitt, Everywoman is Aunt Bea)
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To: najida

That doesn’t mean he’s been abused. I have a hard time equating an improper sexual relationship between student and teacher with a kid whose father sexually abuses him/her, for example. Know what I mean?


9 posted on 03/28/2008 12:02:55 PM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Vigilanteman

No,
we have than assinine double standard were men need sex— the younger the better and women endure sex, because I’m told we’re different (not)....so a boy who gets used by a SIL on a regular basis, and an “Atta boy” from his own father doesn’t have anywhere to go even though he feels pretty sick and used.

And yes, I know of someone like this.


10 posted on 03/28/2008 12:04:02 PM PDT by najida (On FR- Everyman is Brad Pitt, Everywoman is Aunt Bea)
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To: najida; jdm
GUILTY! 12-pack and a three-dog night maybe.
11 posted on 03/28/2008 12:05:08 PM PDT by Perdogg (Reagan would have never said "She's my girl")
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To: Slapshot68

I guess anyone who owns a copy of the movie “Summer of ‘42” is guilty of possessing child porn.


12 posted on 03/28/2008 12:05:35 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: Slapshot68

You don’t know of anyone who’s had it happen, do you? And even worse, you’ve set it up where if something happens to a son of yours, if they feel ugly or abused, they can’t come to you because you’ve already told them (via posts like this) that a MAN would be PROUD to be used by his teacher.


13 posted on 03/28/2008 12:06:02 PM PDT by najida (On FR- Everyman is Brad Pitt, Everywoman is Aunt Bea)
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To: Perdogg

She’s somebody’s Sister and Daughter and well...
Gee, she’s far younger and prettier than me so I must be a 4 dog nighter, right??


14 posted on 03/28/2008 12:07:09 PM PDT by najida (On FR- Everyman is Brad Pitt, Everywoman is Aunt Bea)
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To: kingattax

How much more an abuse of power, then, the POTUS and an intern?


15 posted on 03/28/2008 12:07:26 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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women endure sex, because I’m told we’re different (not)....

I know women who endure sex....because their husbands do not know what they are doing.

16 posted on 03/28/2008 12:10:24 PM PDT by JackDanielsOldNo7 (On guard until the seal is broken)
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To: patton

Oh, but that was a personal issue, and we shouldn’t even have asked the question

(because Bill kept abortion legal)


17 posted on 03/28/2008 12:10:29 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: JackDanielsOldNo7

LOL!
You hang out on the Amazon boards don’t you ;)


18 posted on 03/28/2008 12:11:25 PM PDT by najida (On FR- Everyman is Brad Pitt, Everywoman is Aunt Bea)
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To: najida

Yes, that’s right I’ve be proud of my son for nailing his teacher...give me a break, I didn’t say that. I just don’t equate that (which is TOTALLY improper and wrong) with something criminal like sexually abusing a child.


19 posted on 03/28/2008 12:12:46 PM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: MrB

Gag.


20 posted on 03/28/2008 12:12:59 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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