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Army Phalanx Gun Arrives in Iraq
defencetalk.com ^ | Mar 25, 2008 | defencetalk.com

Posted on 03/25/2008 9:16:00 AM PDT by klpt

FOB BASE KALSU, Iraq: A Phalanx Gatling gun, most often used by naval ships to defend against incoming missiles and rockets, has been installed at Forward Operating Base Kalsu in Iraq to add a little extra punch to the base's defense system.

The gun, modified to be land-based, was installed in late February. It looks like an R2 unit from Star Wars, but unlike the little astromech droid, this gun packs a punch.

Although very complex -- having the ability to destroy incoming artillery, rocket and mortar rounds in the air before they hit their targets on the ground -- the gun is still only as good as the Soldiers manning the defense system. The Soldiers upon whom this task falls are from Battery A, 5/5 Air Defense Artillery, 2nd Infantry Division.

As the only Army counter-rocket, artillery and mortar Intercept Battery deployed in Iraq, the job was a natural fit for the air defense Soldiers. Still, preparing for the mission was a time-consuming process, one which involved preparing the new gun site and coordinating its arrival with the necessary logistical support.

Many other agencies, including Multi-National Corps-Iraq and the base Mayor's Cell, got involved, helping streamline the process. It was amazing how the different agencies came together to cut a lot of the red tape," said Capt. Andrew Cornwell, 5/5 ADA commander.

The help allowed the group to complete all the necessary preparation work before the gun arrived. Preparation involved placing more than 50 T-walls to secure the area, the construction of a guard shack and running power and fiber optics to the gun site.

"I'm surprised at how fast the fiber got laid and was ready to go," said Staff Sgt. Paul Yuhas, Battery A shift noncommissioned officer.

Although the task of preparing and installing the gun is complete, there is still a lot left to be done by the Battery A Soldiers. The responsibility of manning the gun station will fall on these Soldiers for the remainder of their deployment.

Still, the protection provided by the gun to Soldiers and civilians living on the base is enough motivation for them to continue to do their job and show the Air Defense Branch's commitment and key fighting position in Iraq.



TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: banglist; frwn; iraq; military; miltech; oif; phalanx; supplylines; usarmy
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To: klpt
I may hold the distinction of the only person ever to be shot in the eye by a Phalanx and living to tell the story ...

We were testing the system when I was just a young Ensign - my division owned the CIWS. We had a failure of the bolt restraining the two spacer plates on the barrels. The spacers rattled free and were shot to bits by the guns before the failsafe shut her down. The shrapnel littered the gun turret and a small piece rattled around the box and somehow came back up, got around the side protection on my ‘approved’ safety glasses and lodged in my right eye. The ships doc removed it with tweezers - it measured just shy of a full millimeter and had fortunately stuck end in so the laceration was small. My vision is still +20/20.

It's a cool piece of gear and somehow I still have a soft spot in my heart for ole R2.

61 posted on 03/25/2008 11:52:13 AM PDT by BlueNgold (... Feed the tree!)
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To: archy

My unit in the Air Force was tasked with doing the Sgt York’s radar testing.
The gun was pegged so it wouldn’t accidently kill the crowd of dignitaries seated to watch it shoot down a helicopter.
The helicopter was manually blown up and the crowd cheered not knowing that the rounds didn’t go anywhere near the helicopter.
The contractors claimed that we used our gear to jam the guns radar. Whoops, we didn’t have anything that could jam anything. We were just recorded its radar.


62 posted on 03/25/2008 12:10:04 PM PDT by Holicheese (Beware your friendly air defenses!)
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To: archy

Definitely NOT the “Gamma Goat”. ;)

Most dangerous vehicle I’ve ever used.
We gave them to the Ft. Sill post fire department and they hated us for it.

The vehicle I’m thinking about is single-chassis, non-articulated with four wheels on each side. The front and back pairs were slightly elevated, so that the vehicle could spin around the two inner pairs.

I never saw it outside of Ft. Knox, so I think it was a prototype.


63 posted on 03/25/2008 12:10:57 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Holicheese

Yeah. DIVADs = “Sgt. York” Interesting concept but they never could get it to work as advertised.


64 posted on 03/25/2008 12:13:59 PM PDT by Tallguy (Tagline is offline till something better comes along...)
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To: Tallguy

It was a great idea I think. It was a hazzard to anyone sitting behind it as compared to the aircraft in front of guns.


65 posted on 03/25/2008 12:20:24 PM PDT by Holicheese (Hillary deserves the CMoH for her time in Tuzla!)
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To: archy

Found it:
Excalibur

http://www.airdefenseartillery.com/online/New%20Print%20Archive/1984/Fall%201984/NewExcalbur.pdf


66 posted on 03/25/2008 12:33:57 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: archy
Anytime you come back intact is a good day. I'll bet those casings start getting very hot after multiple rounds go down range. My annual flight physical includes hearing tests to measure the cumulative impacts. The good news is that we're finished flying on the project, so I won't need to go for another physical this year...or another aviation survival school refresher training. The 15 yard underwater swim with flight suit, boots and helmet was quite a challenge.
67 posted on 03/25/2008 12:35:16 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: green iguana

Yeah, my first reaction was “you don’t want to be downrange of that thing”.

“Know your target, and what is beyond.”


68 posted on 03/25/2008 12:41:29 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
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To: RGRX
Be safe.

You too.

69 posted on 03/25/2008 12:47:05 PM PDT by Allegra (I have an inbred fear of stupid people.)
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To: SJSAMPLE
Found it:
Excalibur

Ah-ha. Yeah, The *Standard.* The company also built or reworked 8x8 aircraft firefighting trucks, as I recall. But as I thought, it was one of the amphibious wheeled vehicles we considered useful at the time, NONE of which are inventoried today. We come to a blue line, we get a scissors bridge, a helo airlift, or come to a screeching halt.

Like I said, we got some really interesting *funnies* in that period [the M151A1 jeep and jeep-trailer-mounted *Slammer XI* MLRS rocket setup developed by the 82nd Airborne to give them an area saturation weapon with a greater range than the 81mm mortar was an impressive example, and since it used the standard 2.75" helicopter rocket pods of the Huey Cobra gunship, all the components were already in their system. Throw in today's GPS, and it'd be perfect] at least the equal to anything developed for Hobart's 79th Armored Division for the D-Day landings- some of which soldiered on until well after the Korean War.

At least we got the Humvee out of the deal....

70 posted on 03/25/2008 1:05:35 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: Holicheese
My unit in the Air Force was tasked with doing the Sgt York’s radar testing.

There's at least one other FReeper who was heavily involved in the DIVADS development and testing. I don't recall who right off the top of my head, but I'll dig through some of my old notes and see if I can find out.

71 posted on 03/25/2008 1:07:55 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: archy

I was at Ft. Lewis in 1986 when the 9th ID (Motorized) was testing everything wheeled under the sun. HMMWVs with 20mms, the original FAV (long before SEALs got into the act), Kawasaki KL250s. You name it.

I remember the ground-based Hydra-70s of the time, but I never saw them in the US inventory.


72 posted on 03/25/2008 1:23:01 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: klpt

Why did Russia fly our system?


73 posted on 03/25/2008 3:52:12 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: Tallguy
Shades of DIVAD.

Not quite. The Phalanx would absolutely smoke the Sgt York. And it WORKS.

74 posted on 03/25/2008 3:55:50 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (su - | echo "All your " | chown -740 us ./base | kill -9 | cd / | rm -r | echo "belong to us")
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To: Moonman62

I think the A-10 only carries enough rounds for a full 3 or 5 second burst. Add that the cannon is 30mm.


75 posted on 03/25/2008 3:56:21 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: wastedyears
The canon takes up almost the entire fuselage and it slows the plane when fired. When it is firing it is impressive, both at the firing end and the target.

I like the Phalanx too. Both have different purposes and are cool in their own way.

76 posted on 03/25/2008 4:02:57 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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77 posted on 03/25/2008 4:35:44 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Centurion2000
Not quite. The Phalanx would absolutely smoke the Sgt York. And it WORKS.

The problem with CIWS -- or any similar system built around a rotary barrel cannon on land -- is the ammunition consumption problem. Less of a problem on a ship.

Then, as another poster alluded, there is the problem of the radar system for the d@mn thing announcing it's presence. In order for this thing to work against sudden mortar attacks the RADAR would have to be left ON. OK perhaps for a 'permissive environment' like the one we have now in Iraq, but you'd certainly wouldn't expect it to survive against the Russians or Chinese.

Then there's the problem of the system being left in "automatic mode" which is the only way the thing has any value. Remember the frigate, USS Stark, that got zapped by Iraq back in the early '80's? The R2D2 was in manual mode because -- at the time -- they didn't trust the thing not to zap some innocent craft that flew or sailed too close in the congested of the northern Gulf.

78 posted on 03/25/2008 4:38:01 PM PDT by Tallguy (Tagline is offline till something better comes along...)
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To: klpt

Why was this flown in on a Russian transport???


79 posted on 03/25/2008 5:18:34 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: archy

I was at the Elect. Warfare Center at Kelly AFB. We got shipped all over to do defensive testing and to make sure that radars worked the way they were supposed to.
Fun job but I got to see all the garden spots; Edwards, Tonapah, China Lake, Midland TX, etc...


80 posted on 03/25/2008 5:19:08 PM PDT by Holicheese (Hillary deserves the CMoH for her time in Tuzla!)
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