Does Clinton want Obama to lose?

The New Republic ^ | 03/24/08 | Jonathan Chait

[CondiRice08]

The Clintons were probably the worst fate to ever befall the rats. They lost the senate, house and governorships and state legislatures across the country under Bill Clinton. Also if she couldn't care less about her party, imagine what she'd do with this country if she [shudder] should become president.

[digger48]

THE DAMAGE DONE TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY by Bill Clinton was the worst experienced under any incumbent president since Grover Cleveland. Here are some of the stats:

- GOP seats gained in House after Clinton became president: 48

- GOP seats gained in Senate after Clinton became president: 8

- GOP governorships gained after Clinton became president: 11

- GOP state legislative seats gained since Clinton became president: 1,254 as of 1998

- State legislatures taken over by GOP after Clinton became president: 9

- Democrat officeholders who became Republicans since Clinton became president: 439 as of 1998

- Republican officeholders who became Democrats: 3

[icwhatudo]

If Obama is the nominee, clinton will sabotage him. No way she waits 8 years to run again.

[ClearCase_guy]

Sometimes I think the Clinton's are like Anakin Skywalker -- he became Darth Vader and worked to promote the dark side for many years, but in the end, it was only through his actions that the Sith Lord was destroyed.

The Clintons are bad people. Perhaps in the end it is only they who will remove the scales from the eyes of America and help the sheeple to turn away from Liberal Fascism.

[wilco200]

” Republican officeholders who became Democrats: 3”

Unfortunately, one of those is Mccain.

[mainerforglobalwarming]

I was rooting for hillary to be the nominee. I still believe that our liberal McCain would beat her, but McCain actually leads Obama by greater margins in PA and Ohio than he does hillary.
Anyway the economy will be ok on election day. Gas prices will fall a bit, and the tax rebate checks will have a short term stimulus on the economy. And we're winning in Iraq. Obama’s past is catching up with him big time, he's a fading rock star hoping to cut it on the oldies circuit.
And a McCain win is the only way hillary can ever hope to be president. So she'll definitely sabotage Obama’s campaign.

[LetsRok]

The Democrats do not like their “losers” to run again. Gore and Kerry were not the “annointed” frontrunners for the 2008 election. She will lose all of her power after this cycle.

[TrebleRebel]

Some people are wondering why the Republicans are keeping their powder dry attacking Obama. The answer is that Hillary is doing an OK job right now on that front. Personally I think Obama will start faltering when it sinks in to most people his church/pastor problem and the fact that someone who’s name is Hussein might become president. Hillary will likely win the nomination and then the battle will begin.
But if Obama wins the nomination there will emerge groups who will make the Swift Boaters look like choir boys, then things are going to get real ugly real quickly.

[Phantom Lord]

If Obama is the nominee, clinton will sabotage him. No way she waits 8 years to run again.

If Obama becomes President, there is no way Clinton could wait 8 years. To do so would require her beating Obama's VP in the primary. That is a tough prospect, unless his administration is just a total disaster the last 4 years, in which case she could do it, but beating the GOP nominee would be even tougher.

She needs Obama to lose to McCain. Period.

There are 3 available scenarios to Hillary. Sabatoge Obama so McCain wins, she runs in 4 years.

Steal the nomination at the convention.

Accept the VP spot and have Obama whacked.

[montag813]

Her continued campaign is significantly damaging Obama's general election prospects

The sense of entitlement among Obama supporters is breathtaking. The man is so insubstantial it is laughable.

[xp38]

Is this guy Catholic?

[Alberta's Child]

I agree with the notion that 2008 represents Hillary Clinton's only real chance to win the White House. This is an ideal election year for a Democratic candidate to win (mainly because the current GOP administration is on its last legs and because John McCain is a miserable candidate), and history doesn't bode well for candidates on the national stage who lose during previous primary or general elections (note how thoroughly Walter Mondale was trounced in 1984 after losing on the Carter ticket in 1980, and how Joe Lieberman was generating Sharpton-like numbers in the 2004 Democratic primaries after losing as Gore's running mate in 2000).

For some reason I find myself wondering if the stars are lining up perfectly for Mitt Romney to be the ideal presidential candidate in 2012 -- regardless of who wins this year.

[sportutegrl]

Sometimes I think the Clinton's are like Anakin Skywalker --

Similarly, I see Barak Obama as Spock, (from Star Trek) -- ashamed of his earth (white) mother.

[ClearCase_guy]

And there are the ears, as well ...

[T. Buzzard Trueblood]

Clinton is acting as if she doesn't care about the Democratic Party's interests at all, except insofar as they coincide with her own

Damn, these liberals learn slowly.

[alecqss]

The Clintons were probably the worst fate to ever befall the rats.

And still better than Obama. Says a lot about the state of the Party.

In addition, dems now are into conspiracy theories big time... with Clintons deemed omnipotent no less!

[LottieDah]

McCain may have become a “democrat”, but he still supports our troops and our mission in Iraq.

[jimmyray]

Accept the VP spot and have Obama whacked.

I find that comment repulsive, ignoble, and shocking. However, I have no problem believing it could be a plausible outcome. Is that not an amazing thing? Name another recent political figure about which the same could be said with little or no argument from vast number of the American populace. John Gotti? Pol Pot? Chavez?

Astounding!!!

[alecqss]

And there are the ears, as well ...

And with still pervasive theory that if we only kiss him passionately enough, he will become a prince.

[Phantom Lord]

Someone else said several months ago that an Obama/Clinton administration would be the first one where the secret service had to protect the President from the Vice President.