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Islam intrinsically violent - convert (baptized by Pope at Vigil Mass)
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| March 23, 2008
Posted on 03/24/2008 10:16:51 AM PDT by NYer
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To: FreedomPoster
And if he’s referring to the Crusades -
the CRUSADES WERE IN
RESPONSE
TO ISLAMIC ENCROACHMENT AND BARBARISM.
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posted on
03/24/2008 11:06:01 AM PDT
by
MrB
(You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
To: ought-six
This is EXACTLY the debate tactic used by the left.
Since there is no one without sin,
there can be no standards of behavior by which to judge people’s behavior.
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posted on
03/24/2008 11:07:25 AM PDT
by
MrB
(You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
To: DieHard the Hunter
Not much will have changed in the Islamic world since 1834. Actually, since the 12th or 13th century. And it's because of the Koran and Islam. Since the Koran is "perfect and complete", no scientific, philosophical, or societal changes are possible without being apostasy.
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posted on
03/24/2008 11:09:12 AM PDT
by
MrB
(You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
To: NYer
The conference with the 142 muslim clerics will collpase when they don’t get their way.
44
posted on
03/24/2008 11:09:16 AM PDT
by
PeterFinn
(I am not voting for McCain. No way, no how.)
To: G Larry
ya....everybodys gotta keep their mouth shut, cuz nobodys perfect..... Leftists attempt this line of "reasoning" on a daily basis.
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posted on
03/24/2008 11:10:07 AM PDT
by
MrB
(You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
To: NYer
Does there happen to be a text of Mr. Allam’s profession of Christianity available anywhere. It might be interesting (or disturbing?) to read it.
To: Slapshot68
“When was the last time the Catholic Church advocated killing nonbelievers?”
Put any date on there you want and it will be too recent for me.
To: aristotleman
The Catholic Church has done what it was supposed to: preach the Gospel and make converts.
The Church is an organization of human beings; obviously, some of them have made mistakes at times, and corruption can definitely enter in. But there is nothing violent in the message of Christianity or in the Church’s preaching of this - which, on the contrary, has led to thousands of Christian misssionaries over the ages having laid down their lives to bring the Faith to the world. All of the Apostles with the exception of John died as martyrs, and it has been that way ever since.
By contrast, Islam preaches violence and violence is its normal way of being spread.
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posted on
03/24/2008 11:15:45 AM PDT
by
livius
To: NYer
History has a way of ratcheting up the stakes, because nature really can't tolerate a vacuum of truth for long.
The Game, as they say, is afoot.
Amen.
To: John Leland 1789
This is the
Profession of Faith used in the rite for those to be baptized and receive their first Communion. Usually this would be children, but since the new Christian Allam also received his first Communion, I presume the same profession would be used.
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posted on
03/24/2008 11:18:17 AM PDT
by
Mrs. Don-o
(Jesus, my Lord, my God, my All.)
To: Rennes Templar
” . . . it has also done away with many positive theological aspects, particularly reverence for angels and worship of the Divine Mother.”
The Roman Catholic Church has done away with these things? In what official document(s) can we read these things?
To: aristotleman
Too bad they were not more successful during the Crusades.
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posted on
03/24/2008 11:19:52 AM PDT
by
pissant
(THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
To: John Leland 1789; Rennes Templar
The Catholic Church still reverences angels, and it "worships" the Blessed Mother (she is not Divine), but not in the sense of that of God. The official term is "hyperdulia," or the highest honor that can be rightly given to a human creature.
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posted on
03/24/2008 11:23:04 AM PDT
by
Pyro7480
("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
To: Pyro7480
Counting down the time the thread devolves into another “Mary idolotry worshipping Catholics idol worshippers” thread in 3....
...2
...1
To: aristotleman
when ones own religion has a spotless record of peace and loveThen no one can speak, not even you.
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posted on
03/24/2008 11:25:09 AM PDT
by
D-fendr
(Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
To: FourtySeven; Pyro7480
Do you really think that fellow is interested in rational discussion?
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posted on
03/24/2008 11:30:46 AM PDT
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: livius
“The Catholic Church has done what it was supposed to: preach the Gospel and make converts.”
I’ve just never seen anyone from the Catholic Church preach the Gospel. One time at the Skyway Park overlooking Manila, I did witness a priest take Gospel literature out of people’s hands when it was distributed by non-Catholics and throw it on the ground in anger. But I know that was not authorized by the pope or by his Cardinal, or anything like that.
To: John Leland 1789
> I didnt see any baptism taking place. I see a man in some kind of helmet or something on the left holding something on the head of a guy bent over a bowl or something.
Alright alright — so you aren’t Catholic and you believe (as do I) in full-immersion baptism. Surely you can make your point without being rude?
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posted on
03/24/2008 11:31:56 AM PDT
by
DieHard the Hunter
(Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
To: John Leland 1789
He probably took a Jack Chick tract out of somebody’s hands and threw it on the ground.
If you would like to see the Bible treated reverently, come to Mass sometime.
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posted on
03/24/2008 11:36:13 AM PDT
by
livius
To: aristotleman
“Linking religions to violence in public can only be done when ones own religion has a spotless record of peace and love. Of course, the catholic church has an impeccable past of religious tolerance.”
Arrogance and ignorance in one felt swoop. I suppose The United States has no right to critique the human rights of
China or Cuba as well. Afterall, the US used slaves and denied human rights to slaves in its early days.
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posted on
03/24/2008 11:37:18 AM PDT
by
rbmillerjr
("bigger government means constricting freedom"....................RWR)
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