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Guns and Legal Ammo
Wall Street Journal ^ | March 22, 2008 | WSJ Editorial

Posted on 03/21/2008 10:02:28 PM PDT by Clairity

As shoot-outs go, the Supreme Court had a famous one Tuesday during oral arguments over the constitutionality of Washington D.C.'s handgun ban. The smoke won't clear until the High Court issues its decision, but the debate this week augurs well for a conclusion that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to bear arms.

Judging by Tuesday argument, the High Court has a majority in support of the circuit court opinion. Chief Justice John Roberts asked why the Framers included the word "people" if the Amendment only applied to militias. Justice Antonin Scalia discussed the importance the Framers attached to providing citizens the means to protect against tyrannical government. Justice Anthony Kennedy, often the Court's swing vote, informed all in attendance that "In my view, there's a general right to bear arms quite without reference to the militia either way."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; scotus

1 posted on 03/21/2008 10:02:29 PM PDT by Clairity
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To: Clairity

Interesting screen name. :)


2 posted on 03/21/2008 10:04:19 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Clairity; Joe Brower

BTTT


3 posted on 03/21/2008 10:11:08 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Clairity
Even Ruthy went along with the apparent majority. It's pretty clear she understands that if the Supreme Court has to rule on the Constitutionality of the DC gun law, it is going to also rule (again) on the Constitutionality of the DC city council, and that'll lose.

DC has a liberal public abortion financing law and that'll lose too.

Guess Ruthy would rather have guns than lose abortions.

She and the pukes at the Washington Post have this approach to live births that suggests they'd prefer that they not happen.

If Ruthy can concoct an argument that simply dispenses with the DC gun law while leaving the DC city council in place, she'll do that. In fact, such a proposed decision is probably being prepared by her friends over at Planned Parenthood as we speak.

4 posted on 03/21/2008 10:15:25 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Clairity

You aren’t the Clarity of old are you? I kinda liked that guy.


5 posted on 03/21/2008 10:53:19 PM PDT by Gumption
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To: Clairity
"We hope the Supreme Court agrees with Judge Silberman that the Second Amendment does protect the right to own pistols, rifles and other guns of the kind the American Founders believed were needed to protect liberty"

In 1966 the U.S.S.C. under Justice Warren concocted the now infamous "Miranda" decision out of whole cloth. At the time, the Court had left open the option that Congress had the right to correct the decision if it wished. Years later, Congress did indeed attempt to alter the Miranda decision, but by then the U.S.S.C. wouldn't budge. The reasoning, (cynically IMO) was then that the Miranda decision was part of the fabric of legal rights, or something along that lines.

My hope is that in this case, because guns have been so long a part of our culture, and the desire to own guns for protection is deeply cherished, that the Court could reason similarly, and recognize that the possession of firearms in deeply embedded and should not be altered. (Of course, the best reason is to simply follow the Constitution.)

6 posted on 03/21/2008 11:28:46 PM PDT by Enterprise ((Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!))
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To: Clairity

7 posted on 03/22/2008 12:09:14 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: Iron Munro
Time to buy stock in a gun manufacturer!
8 posted on 03/22/2008 12:35:43 AM PDT by ME-262 (Nancy Pelosi is known to the state of CA to render Viagra ineffective causing reproductive harm.)
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To: Clairity
Justice Antonin Scalia discussed the importance the Framers attached to providing citizens the means to protect against tyrannical government.

The 2nd Amendment is not for hunting or for home defense...this is the real reason why the power hungry elitists despise guns in the hands of citizens.

9 posted on 03/22/2008 1:10:12 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
Hunting and home self defense are just side benefits of the amendment.
10 posted on 03/22/2008 4:36:19 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: Red Steel
bump!


11 posted on 03/22/2008 5:24:03 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: riverrunner
Governments are just organized criminals with ink smudges on wood pulp justifying their actions. Regular criminals as least do their own work and make no bones about the why and whatfors.
12 posted on 03/22/2008 5:26:30 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Clairity

Does this mean we can go back to all the law schools and laugh at the constitutional law professors who tried to intentionally teach the second amendment wrong?


13 posted on 03/22/2008 5:58:33 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Leisler
Governments are just organized criminals with ink smudges on wood pulp justifying their actions. Regular criminals as least do their own work and make no bones about the why and whatfors.

Which makes the founding of the United States even more miraculous than most people realize. A confluence of Men who came up with a concept of citizen legislators, people who would act as public servants, and then return to their lives. Quite possibly the very best example of this is George Washington. He was offered the position of "King" and he turned it down, instead he returned to Mt Vernon.

That sound we can hear if we listen carefully enough are the Founding Fathers spinning in their graves, over what we now have in Washington, DC.

Mark

14 posted on 03/22/2008 7:24:30 AM PDT by MarkL
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To: longtermmemmory

I always did.


15 posted on 03/22/2008 7:28:53 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
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To: MarkL
Well, you must remember that these guys took on and defeated the most powerful Empire since Rome. They were literate killers. So,

A. Typical Bull Shite wouldn't work.

B. They were killers, so everyone was on their best behavior.

C. They benefited from the great, good and improving liberty of dueling that culled the cowardly bullshite-ers from the male population. Just think how much better our country would be now if BSers could be called out at dawn?

16 posted on 03/22/2008 7:31:29 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Clairity

Has anyone pointed out;

The reason W.D.C. has such a high crime rate

is because they advertise that all of the citizens are UNARMED!!!!

????????


17 posted on 03/22/2008 7:37:10 AM PDT by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: longtermmemmory
Does this mean we can go back to all the law schools and laugh at the constitutional law professors who tried to intentionally teach the second amendment wrong?

Bet your Bippy!

it do

18 posted on 03/22/2008 11:05:20 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: MarkL
That sound we can hear if we listen carefully enough are the Founding Fathers spinning in their graves, over what we now have in Washington, DC.

What do you IF we listen carefully? You pretty much have to wear muffs and plugs to not hear it.

19 posted on 03/22/2008 11:07:00 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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