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Obama's Church Web Site 'Disappears' the 'Black Value System' (even more content being deleted!)
Little Green Footballs ^ | March 17, 2008 | by Charles Johnson

Posted on 03/17/2008 12:07:32 PM PDT by jdm

Sometime between April 2006 and today, the church Barack Obama has attended for 20 years, Trinity United Church of Christ, quietly edited the “About Us” page of their web site, removing their statement of commitment to “the Black Value System written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981.”

Here’s the page from 2006, saved by the Internet Archive: Trinity United Church of Christ - About Us.

And here’s the current page: Trinity United Church of Christ - About Us.

The section that was removed:

Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981. We believe in the following 12 precepts and covenantal statements. These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They must reflect on the following concepts:

1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the Black Community
3. Commitment to the Black Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness”
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.

(Hat tip: LGF readers.)

UPDATE at 3/17/08 10:05:37 am:

The Internet Archive shows that the page was edited sometime between March 15, 2007 and March 29, 2007.

UPDATE at 3/17/08 10:29:09 am:

There’s still a PDF file titled “The Black Value System,” hosted at the church web site, and it’s even more extreme than the 12 precepts quoted above.

UPDATE at 3/17/08 10:35:36 am:

An excerpt from the PDF file, on the subject of “Middleclassness:”

Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness”

Classic methodology on control of captives teaches that captors must keep the captive ignorant educationally, but trained sufficiently well to serve the system. Also, the captors must be able to identify the “talented tenth” of those subjugated, especially those who show promise of providing the kind of leadership that might threaten the captor’s control.

Those so identified as separated from the rest of the people by:

Killing them off directly, and/or fostering a social system that encourages them to kill off one another.

Placing them in concentration camps, and/or structuring an economic environment that induces captive youth to fill the jails and prisons.

Seducing them into a socioeconomic class system which while training them to earn more dollars, hypnotizes them into believing they are better than others and teaches them to think in terms of “we” and “they” instead of “us”.

So, while it is permissible to chase “middle-incomeness” with all our might, we must avoid the third separation method-the psychological entrapment of Black “middleclassness”: If we avoid the snare, we will also diminish our “voluntary” contributions to methods A and B. And more importantly, Black people no longer will be deprived of their birthright, the leadership, resourcefulness, and example of their own talented persons.

UPDATE at 3/17/08 11:02:00 am:

The Black Value System does indeed have a page at the Trinity web site, but there is apparently no link to it: Trinity United Church of Christ - The Black Value System.

Instead, at the bottom of the “About Us” page linked above, they have a link to Rev. Wright’s “talking points” about The Black Value System.


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To: fishtank

Oldthinkers bellyfeel crimethink.


21 posted on 03/17/2008 12:18:39 PM PDT by thulldud (Insanity: Electing John McCain again and expecting a different result.)
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To: Always Right
Almost surprised Obama did not have them clean this up a long time ago.

Even if he's oklay with it (which he obviously is and has been), the fact that he didn't recognize that this stuff was political TNT makes him one the dumbest politicians in recent memory.

The guy is toast. And he's lock to win the popular vote and the majority of delegates in the dem primary. What a beautiful disaster this is turning out to be. I can't wait for the convention riots.

22 posted on 03/17/2008 12:19:56 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: Army Air Corps
Obama response: I did not personally see the website or read any of those statements repeated in the church bulletin on Sunday...

Or did I ever pay attention to what my spiritual father was saying.

23 posted on 03/17/2008 12:20:18 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: jdm

This just keeps getting worse for them.

If you believe what you say, you do not hide it, obfuscate or delete it.

It looks worse.

Ok. Now I know there is a mole from the Clinton campaign in Obama’s camp. There has to be.


24 posted on 03/17/2008 12:20:37 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Always Right

Deval Patrick belongs to the Boston affiliate of this church. Qu’elle surprise.


25 posted on 03/17/2008 12:21:13 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: jdm

I’m surprised the new banner isn’t up yet.

“Keep Hate Alive”


26 posted on 03/17/2008 12:22:26 PM PDT by vietvet67
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To: jdm

LOL they didn’t know to pull the page from the server


27 posted on 03/17/2008 12:23:29 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us nature wallpapers)
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To: Army Air Corps

Maybe Obama lied about his faith. Maybe he doesn’t give a Rat’s @** about religion and his prop liberal church, like Bill Clinton’s 4 inch thick impeachment Bible, is a hollow prop and now a public embarassment.

He claimed the pastor as his guide. Now he claims to not really know the guy and that he privately has spoken out against his pastor.

He’s liar on some point he’s tried to make.


28 posted on 03/17/2008 12:23:46 PM PDT by weegee (I hold out HOPE that neither Obama or Clinton will get the office to push thru their Marxist plans.)
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To: fishtank

You need a little re-education, under the spreading Chestnut Tree. We’ll come for you.

-O’Brien


29 posted on 03/17/2008 12:24:17 PM PDT by Ender Wiggin
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To: vietvet67

Wonder when they will get mentioned by the press in the same breath as Al Gore’s pal, Fred Phelps (D).


30 posted on 03/17/2008 12:24:25 PM PDT by weegee (I hold out HOPE that neither Obama or Clinton will get the office to push thru their Marxist plans.)
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To: weegee
"What u talkin bout weegee"

31 posted on 03/17/2008 12:25:26 PM PDT by evets
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To: jdm

Pretty soon they’ll be blaming a “Chinese hacker” for the deletion.


32 posted on 03/17/2008 12:26:17 PM PDT by gunservative
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To: jdm

Obama’s church might have been under-the-radar as far as hate and racism, but they certainly weren’t very careful or savvy in this new Internet age. Now they think deleting the site’s content is going to erase all this uproar?


33 posted on 03/17/2008 12:26:33 PM PDT by lainie ("You had your time, you had the power, you've yet to have your finest hour" (Roger Taylor, 1984))
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Denver: the new Chicago.


34 posted on 03/17/2008 12:27:05 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Bill Clinton: Life Member of the Liars' Club.)
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To: jdm

check out the vid, it’s a white Church lady doing the testimonial, next thing you know they’ll be selling Pat Boone CDs.


35 posted on 03/17/2008 12:27:06 PM PDT by lmc12
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To: Kuksool
How stupid does the Obama camp think the American Public is?

UH? Recall this one....You won't go broke underestimating etc etc etc

36 posted on 03/17/2008 12:28:36 PM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: hsalaw
What it really shows is that Obama is nothing more than a political opportunist, who will belong to a Black-nationalist church, when it serves his “comunity-activist” agenda, but then hide from it when it becomes a liability. Trans-racial, above-the-fray messiah? Naw, he is just another slippery, sleazey political chameleon who is nowhere near as good at it as the Clintons.
37 posted on 03/17/2008 12:29:16 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (Obama is the anti-Reagan, instead of opposing the world's tyrants, he wants to embrace them)
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To: weegee
Good thing there are archivist sites that attempt to preserve old content on the internet so when Orwellian Stalinists purge the history to meet the present, the truth can come out.

Very true, however, unfortunately the archive sites (like the wayback machine) give an option to website owners to "opt out" of the automatic archival. I'm not sure if it's proactive or not, but if it is, I suspect that will be the next step for this "church". But that's ok, for leftists, it's all about the "here and now" anyway; whatever happened in the past, is the past, and no sense in being held to what you said 2 minutes ago, much less 2 years ago.

38 posted on 03/17/2008 12:30:53 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

I’m waiting for the Marxist ideology of Hillary and Barack to become crystal clear in the eyes of the public and for them to be rejected.

The hypocrisy of NOW defending Bill Clinton on charges of rape and sexual harassment in the workplace has blown back on NOW when the NY chapter denounced the actions of Ted Kennedy and Barack Obama as a gang rape of Hillary’s campaign and likened it to the workplace harassment that all women are exposed to.

The left wing extreme HATE espoused by Barack’s pastor is no different than what is said at the so called “peace” rallies/riots.

The Socialist Left is collapsing. Their lies are being exposed. We don’t have to live in the Stalinist America that George Orwell warned us about.

But I’m sick of the Democrats offering us Socialism 2008 as an improvement over Socialism 2006 as an improvement over Socialism 2004 as an improvement over Socialism 1992 as an improvement over Socialism 1988 as an improvement over Socialism 1972...

ENOUGH. We don’t want it. The propaganda that has been used to sell the agenda is a LIE. Always has been.


39 posted on 03/17/2008 12:31:09 PM PDT by weegee (I hold out HOPE that neither Obama or Clinton will get the office to push thru their Marxist plans.)
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To: jdm
Are the damning tapes archived anywhere?

If not on the net, someone must have burned them, zipped them?

40 posted on 03/17/2008 12:31:50 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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