Posted on 03/16/2008 2:49:59 PM PDT by jveritas
That’s OK... I barely speak it!
:-)
Take care and watch your back.
Thank you very much FRiend.
This is a huge list of media contacts to get the word out that I wanted everyone to have/use in case they don’t already have.
http://www.conservativeusa.org/megalink.htm#talkshows
Joseph I found this link from The Jamestown Foundation, Global Terrorism Analysis helpful.
It describes very well the Zarqawi history including when he joined up with Ansar Al Islam.
http://www.jamestown.org/terrorism/news/article.php?articleid=2369021
“After spending some time in a Jordanian prison, Zarqawi returned to Afghanistan and subsequently established a training camp in the western city of Herat. Though he apparently assembled 80 to 100 people, largely Palestinians and Jordanians committed to jihad but with no formal name for the group, there is not thought to have been any links to al-Qaeda at this time. Evidence gathered from Shadi Abdullah, an Islamist arrested in Germany in 2002, even points to competition between Zarqawi and bin Laden for recruits during this period, though Zarqawi seemed far more focused on overthrowing the Jordanian regime and recruited almost exclusively Palestinians and Jordanians.
After the U.S. attacked the Taliban, Zarqawi moved first to Iran. He was then pressured to move on and traveled just over the border into Iraqi Kurdistan as the only available place for refuge. Here he developed links with a new generation of Salifists who had not fought in the original Afghan jihad, including Ansar al-Islam, which had established itself on the Iranian border and taken control of a number of villages. Reports from militants claim that Iran was concerned over their location and asked them to move three miles from the border to avoid any direct contact between Iranians and the Ansar forces. Jihadist fighters then flowed into Northern Iraq from Afghanistan and Pakistan through Iran. [4]”
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“Also here is the transcript of the terrorists who got caught attempting a chemical attack in Jordan to kill 80,000 people and to hit US interests as they confess. They discuss how they set up camp in Iraq with Al Zarqawi after Afghanistan fell to the coalition forces.”
Its my view evidence that the Jordanian government has on Zarqawi training with Ansar Al Islam before this attempted attack makes this a slam dunk case. “the smoking gun”
The State Dept confirms it.
Country Report on Terrorism
Jordan
http://www.state.gov/p/nea/ci/jordan/77378.htm
From your link.
That plot was planned while Zarqawi was based in Iraq, pre Iraq war.
Thanks.,
Correct
This report below is a very interesting read and the information provided ties a lot of the connections together between Ansar Al Islam, Krekar, Zarqawi and Saddam’s Mukhabarat including Abu Wael.
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:siK3YClTlmcJ:www.cpt-mi.org/Ansar%2520al-Is
Ansar al-Islam Dossier
CENTER FOR POLICING TERRORISM
“CPT”
July 30, 2004
PREPARED FOR THE CPT BY DAN DARLING
“3. Middle East. In addition to its documented presence in Iran noted in Section
1.11a, Ansar also appears to have maintained at least some infrastructure in Syria.
Italian investigators believe that two of the group’s leaders, Mullah Fuad and
Abderrazak, were active in Syria prior to OIF. 101
These Syria-based leaders are believed to have been working to coordinate the travel of European extremists tothe Ansar enclave in Iraqi Kurdistan for training.102
There also appear to have been ties between Ansar and al Qaeda cells based in Jordan, possibly the same al Tawhid network that would later assassinate a US diplomat in October 2002 and attempt to use chemical agents against five targets in April 2004.10”
Now if you look at this article the Italian Judge also believed the same info after reading the phone taps of Omar.
http://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/article.aspx?id=2267
Who is Abu Omar? Extracts from the Italian Police Surveillance Tapes
“** Judge Salvini notes that this “could be a reference to the terrorist organization Tawhid wal Jihad of Abu Mussab Al Zarqawi.”
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I would argue the piece above refutes your charges and does infact present a case for detailed and substantial plans.
You underestimate their abilites by a very wide margin.
Apparently you forgot they carried out very sophisticated, multipronged and successful attacks on 9/11.
I don’t underestimate their abilities, I am criticising their understanding of the term ‘analysis’. They PLAN things, but they aren’t very good at analysis.
And no, I haven’t forgotten 9/11 and yes, they are a bunch of sub-retarded goons, regardless of any planning they get away with.
Adding to post #232
It appears Newsweek was aware of this.
Terror Watch: More Questions on Missing Imam
http://www.newsweek.com/id/49936/output/print
“The court summary identifies Abu Omar—describing him as an “Egyptian
extremist”—as one of a number of suspected terror operatives who were involved
in recruiting fighters for the camps in Iraq, as well as procuring and
distributing false travel documents and the raising of funds. It also quotes
from a June 15, 2002, wiretap of a conversation between Abu Omar and an
unidentified visitor from Germany in which the two talk about a “secret meeting
in Poland with the sheiks” that would help build a new jihadi organization to be
financed by sympathizers in Saudi Arabia. At one point, the visitor says, “We
are also waiting [for] the sheikh from Iraq”—an apparent reference, the
document asserts, to Mullah Krekar, the radical cleric believed to have been a
founder of Ansar Al-Islam. The document states that the conversation “clearly
demonstrated the intention to organize a new subversive international terrorist
structure ... that obeyed the decisions of Al Tawhid [Zarqawi’s organization
] for the commissioning of attacks.”
This transcripts and other records in the case show that Abu Omar was “directly
in contact with the representatives of the Zarqawi group and Ansar Al-Islam,”
says Jean-Charles Brisard, a Paris-based terror researcher who works closely
with lawyers representing families of September 11 victims.”
Also add in this evidence at Fox News
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,128193,00.html
Iraq Evidence Led Feds to Albany
Saturday, August 07, 2004
ALBANY, N.Y. — Information found in Iraq led federal investigators to become suspicious of an Albany, N.Y., mosque leader, FOX News has learned.
Last summer, U.S. troops discovered Yassin Muhhiddin Aref’s (search) name, telephone number and address in a book left behind in a vacated terrorist training camp, a U.S. official told FOX News. The book also revealed that Ansar al-Islam, the group running the camp, had given Aref a title: “the commander.”
Aref also made several telephone calls to individuals in Iraq within the past year, the official said.
Aref, 34, is the Imam of the Masjid As-Salam mosque in Albany, N.Y. He and one other mosque leader were arrested Thursday and charged with helping an undercover informant posing as a weapons dealer who was plotting to buy a shoulder-launched missile that would be used to kill the Pakistani ambassador in New York City.
Aref and Mohammed Mosharref Hossain (search), the 49-year-old founder of the mosque and owner of the local Little Italy Pizzeria, were allegedly collaborating with someone who was not a terrorist but an informant participating in a sting operation; no missile ever was exchanged.
Click to read the charges (FindLaw pdf).
Earlier on Thursday, law enforcement officials said the men had possible ties to Ansar al-Islam, which has been linked to Usama bin Laden’s Al Qaeda (search) terror network. However, that link was not noted in court documents.
Ansar al-Islam (search) has claimed responsibility for a series of bombings, kidnappings and killings in Iraq, and has ties to the U.S.-led coalition’s most-wanted terrorist there, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi (search).
Excellent ....
We need to run over the Taliban in the Pakistan Tribal area so we can get hold of more notebooks....
This is what Congress knew.
Report for Congress prepared by Kenneth Katzman
Iraq: U.S. Regime Change Efforts
and Post-Saddam Governance
Updated November 25, 2003
Kenneth Katzman
Specialist in Middle Eastern Affairs
Foreign Affairs, Defense, and Trade Division
Congressional Research Service ˜ The Library of Congress
pg 9 of 47
Ansar al-Islam/Al Qaeda/Zarqawi. In the mid-1990s, the two main
Kurdish parties enjoyed good relations with a small Kurdish Islamic faction, the
Islamic Movement of Iraqi Kurdistan (IMIK), which is headed by Shaikh Ali Abd-al
Aziz. Based in Halabja, Iraq, the IMIK publicized the effects of Baghdad’s March
1988 chemical attack on that city, and it allied with the PUK in 1998.
A radical faction of the IMIK split off in 1998, calling itself the Jund al-Islam
(Army of Islam). It later changed its name to Ansar al-Islam (Partisans of Islam).
This Ansar faction was led by Mullah Krekar, an Islamist Kurd who reportedly had
once studied under Shaikh Abdullah al-Azzam, an Islamic theologian of Palestinian
origin who was the spiritual mentor of Osama bin Laden. Ansar reportedly
associated itself with Al Qaeda and agreed to host in its northern Iraq enclave Al
Qaeda fighters, mostly of Arab origin, who had fled the U.S.-led war in Afghanistan
in 2001. Prior to Operation Iraqi Freedom, during which its base was captured,
about 600 primarily Arab fighters lived in the Ansar al-Islam enclave, near the town
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of Khurmal.4 Ansar fighters clashed with the PUK around Halabja in December
2002, and Ansar gunmen were allegedly responsible for an assassination attempt
against PUK prime minister Barham Salih in April 2002. Possibly because his Ansar
movement was largely taken over by the Arab fighters from Afghanistan, Krekar left
northern Iraq for northern Europe. He was detained in Norway in August 2002 and
now lives there under varying degrees of official restriction.
The leader of the Arab contingent within Ansar al-Islam is said by U.S. officials
to be Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, an Arab of Jordanian origin who reputedly fought in
Afghanistan. Zarqawi has been linked to Al Qaeda plots in Jordan during the
December 1999 millennium celebration, the assassination in Jordan of U.S. diplomat
Lawrence Foley (2002), and to reported attempts in 2002 to spread the biological
agent ricin in London and possibly other places in Europe. In a presentation to the
U.N. Security Council on February 5, 2003, Secretary of State Powell tied Zarqawi
and Ansar to Saddam Hussein’s regime, which might have viewed Ansar al-Islam as
a means of pressuring Baghdad’s Kurdish opponents. Although Zarqawi reportedly
received medical treatment in Baghdad in May 2002 after fleeing Afghanistan, many
experts believed Baghdad-Ansar links were tenuous or even non-existent; Baghdad
did not control northern Iraq even before Operation Iraqi Freedom.5 Zarqawi’s
current whereabouts are unknown, although some unconfirmed press reports indicate
he might have fled to Iran after the fall of the Ansar camp to U.S.-led forces. Some
recent press accounts say Iran might have him in custody.6 U.S. officials have said
since August 2003 that some Ansar fighters, possibly at the direction of Zarqawi,
might have remained in or re-entered Iraq and are participating in the resistance to
the U.S. occupation, possibly including organizing acts of terrorism such as recent
car/truck bombings (see below). One press report quotes U.S. intelligence as
assessing the number of Ansar fighters inside Iraq at 150.7 Ansar al-Islam is not
listed by the State Department as Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO).
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