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1 posted on 03/14/2008 8:39:04 AM PDT by bs9021
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To: bs9021
Another reason to homeschool.

Take your kids out of the government school system ASAP.
2 posted on 03/14/2008 8:40:27 AM PDT by Antoninus (Tell us how you came to Barack?)
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To: bs9021

This will spill over into Christian belief teachers also.

I believe they target the Catholic education because Catholics have always stood against abortion, euthanasia, homosexuality, etc. — a lot of the things that they want to believe in.

In short, Catholics have God. These teachers (if you want to call them that) do not.


3 posted on 03/14/2008 8:42:41 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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“A substitute teacher wiped the Ash Wednesday ashes off the forehead of a student at White County High School,” the League reports.

That sub is lucky her father didn't wipe the sub's forehead off his head.

4 posted on 03/14/2008 8:44:13 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: bs9021
A middle school teacher gave an assignment to her students pinpointing who was responsible for the Holocaust and listed Pope Pius XII along with Himmler and Goebels

Pope Pius was on the wrong list then. He and his Church saved 860,000+ Jews from the camps: more than all other organisations and private individuals combined.

5 posted on 03/14/2008 8:46:05 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: DaveLoneRanger; 2Jedismom; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; Antoninus; arbooz; bboop; bill1952; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. If you want on/off this list, please freepmail me. The main Homeschool Ping List by DaveLoneRanger handles the homeschool-specific articles. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list.
6 posted on 03/14/2008 8:49:52 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: NYer; Salvation

Catholic ping


8 posted on 03/14/2008 8:52:42 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Gabz

school ping


9 posted on 03/14/2008 8:52:59 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: bs9021

Sad, sad, sad


10 posted on 03/14/2008 8:53:18 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: bs9021
Catholics should remove their children from government schools today! Their children are being continually preached the government Secular Humanist religious worldview. From the time they enter government school until they finish the last jot of homework everything is filtered through a godless prism!

We know that the retention in the faith rate for children who attend government schools who have been raised in active Christian homes is abysmal! Worse still, is that those who do remain active and profess to be Christian hold beliefs that could never be considered Christian! ( Yes! I have links!)

Surely, the consequences of sending a Catholic child to government school could not be any better than for Protestant Christian children.

For Catholic and Protestant Christian teachers, why are you abetting, aiding, propping up, and pushing forward a system that is officially godless? How can you justify teaching only part of the truth? How can you justify supporting a system that in every class, throughout the entire curriculum, and all textbooks has thoroughly scrubbed all reference to God and God's plan?

Why aren't you using your talents to build up Catholic and Protestant Christian schools so that children can be taught the WHOLE truth? Geeze! Surely the children know that what they are receiving in the government schools is not in accord with Christian belief. They can only come to one conclusion: Christians will support what they know is a lie for a paycheck!

I hope you are not attempting to sneak in a little bit of Christian philosophy into your classes. If you are, you are teaching the children that Christians are sneaky.

Surely the children will figure out that the NEA stands for everything that is anti-Christian, yet their Catholic and Protestant teachers are sending money to this organization every year, and even ask the godless NEA to be their **representatives**! What lesson is this teaching all the children about Catholics and Protestant Christians and their integrety?

As I see it believing Catholics and Protestant Christians have only two moral options:

1) They can vigorously, actively, and flamingly reject the godless agenda of the government schools and refuse to have anything to do with the NEA. ( Of course, they will likely be fired!)

Or...

2) Quit!

Anything less than the above is teaching children that Catholics and Protestant Christians are sneaky, will send money to the godless and anti-Christian NEA, support teaching only part of the truth, will support others who teach outright lies, are too timid and weak to protest, and be hypocrites for a paycheck.

Also,,,A Catholic or Protestant Christians MOST important mission field is their own children. Their second most important mission field is the children of their congregation! If their churches will not step up to help, they they need to do it themselves. It is THAT important!

If you turn your child over to Cesar don't be surprised if he returns home a Roman!

19 posted on 03/14/2008 1:48:54 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: bs9021
“A substitute teacher wiped the Ash Wednesday ashes off the forehead of a student at White County High School,”

Touch my child, go to the hospital.

21 posted on 03/14/2008 2:27:28 PM PDT by conservonator (spill czeck is knot my friend)
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To: Salvation; Coleus; NYer

Public education went off a cliff generations ago. What we’re seeing now is the impact of hitting the rocks.


28 posted on 03/14/2008 3:18:52 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: bs9021; All
The faithful are increasingly likely to face hostility to their beliefs in secular educational settings, (emphasized by Amendment10) the Catholic League’s 2007 Report on Anti-Catholicism shows:

Please note that there's a BIG constitutional problem concerning the idea of secular educational settings.

Up to the late 1830s, local communities decided what was taught in their schools. In fact, all schools up to that time could be regarded as private schools that taught the local flavor of Christianity. Local schools were well within their 10th A. powers to do so.

But things changed in the late 1830s. More specifically, Protestant state lawmakers got spooked by large numbers of Catholic immigrants. Protestant lawmakers didn't want Catholicism to spread and so made state-level laws, the infamous Blaine laws, which prevented Catholicism from being taught in local, community-supported schools. Local schools, called common schools, under Protestant influence essentially tried to force Catholic children to learn Protestant Christian beliefs.

The reason that Protestant Christianity is no longer taught in public schools is as follows. Justice Black was a Baptist and probably shared the beliefs of some Baptists that Matthew 22:21 was God's call for absolute c&s separation. When Justice Black got the opportunity to force his personal beliefs regarding absolute c&s separtion into religion-related public school cases, he did so. And here's how he did it...

Justice Black decided in the Everson case that Jefferson's "wall of separation" meant that the establishment clause was meant to apply to the states.

However...

"Former" Klansman Justice Black "overlooked" that Jefferson had also acknowledged that the Founders had written the 1st and 10th Amendments in part to reserve government power to address religious issues uniquely to the states. In fact, Jefferson had done so on at least three occasions. See for yourself.

"3. Resolved that it is true as a general principle and is also expressly declared by one of the amendments to the constitution that ‘the powers not delegated to the US. by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively or to the people’: and that no power over the freedom of religion, freedom of speech, or freedom of the press being delegated to the US. by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, all lawful powers respecting the same did of right remain, & were reserved, to the states or the people..." --Thomas Jefferson, Kentucky Resolutions, 1798. http://tinyurl.com/oozoo

"In matters of religion, I have considered that its free exercise is placed by the Constitution independent of the powers of the general government. I have therefore undertaken on no occasion to prescribe the religious exercises suited to it; but have left them as the Constitution found them, under the direction and discipline of State or Church authorities acknowledged by the several religious societies." --Thomas Jefferson: 2nd Inaugural Address, 1805. ME 3:378 http://tinyurl.com/jmpm3

"I consider the government of the United States as interdicted by the Constitution from intermeddling with religious institutions, their doctrines, discipline, or exercises. This results not only from the provision that no law shall be made respecting the establishment or free exercise of religion, but from that also which reserves to the states the powers not delegated to the United States. Certainly, no power to prescribe any religious exercise or to assume authority in religious discipline has been delegated to the General Government. It must then rest with the states, as far as it can be in any human authority." --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Miller, 1808. http://tinyurl.com/nkdu7

So by quoting Jefferson to help justify his scandalous interpretation of the establishment clause, Justice Black essentially quoted the worst possible person to pull off his dirty work.

Finally, the reason that little is being done about perverted interpretations of the Constitution by corrupt justices is because ignorance of the Constitution and how the government is supposed to work is epidemic. Widespread constitutional ignorance is evidenced by the following links.

http://tinyurl.com/npt6t
http://tinyurl.com/hehr8
The consequence of widespread constitutional ignorance is that both federal and state governments are walking all over our freedoms, particularly our religious freedoms as evidenced by the politically correct idea of "secular educational settings."

The bottom line is that the people need to reconnect with the intentions of the Founders as reflected by the Constitution and its history, particularly where the teaching of religion to our children is concerned, people's 14th A. protections respected. The people need to quit sitting on their hands and petition lawmakers, judges and justices who are not upholding their oaths to defend the Constitution, demanding that they resign from their jobs.

29 posted on 03/14/2008 5:07:45 PM PDT by Amendment10
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41 posted on 03/18/2008 7:36:08 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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