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Breaking Silence About the B-3
Strategy Page ^ | 3/13/08 | Jim Dunnigan

Posted on 03/13/2008 5:37:53 PM PDT by Renfield

March 10, 2008: Stung by rumors that they were not serious about developing a new heavy bomber, the U.S. Air Force announced that it was developing such an aircraft, that it would be in service by 2018, and would be able to operate with, or without, a crew. The implication was that the design of the new bomber was already quite advanced, and that it was, like the B-2, being handled as a "black project" (all work done in secrecy, until ready for production.)

The new bomber would be similar to the current B-2 in many ways. That is, it would be stealthy, have a crew of only two, and be capable of staying in the air for over 24 hours at a time. The "B-3" would probably also be capable of super-cruise (travelling long distances at very high speeds), and would definitely have a full array of the latest sensors and communications capabilities. The biggest potential problem is cost. The B-2 bombers were so expensive that only 21 were built. One recently crashed. Adding in the development expenses, each B-2 cost about two billion dollars. If the B-3 costs a lot more, the air force will have a hard time selling it to Congress. This would be the case even if the air force came up with a design that amounted to a "semi-space" ship, that travelled at hypersonic speeds (enabling it to reach any point on the planet in a few hours). Price has definitely become a factor, and that may be why the air force has been reluctant to release any details on the next generation heavy bomber.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 2018; aerospace; b3; bombers; military; usaf
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To: halfright
Head out to Dayton Ohio and Wright-Patterson AFB US Air Force Museum and actually touch both. The other (only two built) Valkyrie and a (still leaking fuel), SR-71. Not to mention a Raptor.

When the SR-71 came in for its final flight, I worked very near the USAF Museum. The whole office walked across the street and stood on a hill overlooking the runway to watch the landing. The museum runway was shorter than normally allowed, so the weather had to be perfect and it was cancelled a few times before takeoff until they had a day with great weather.

61 posted on 03/13/2008 7:59:42 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Rattenschadenfreude: joy at a Democrat's pain, especially Hillary's pain caused by Obama.)
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To: Renfield

There is no B-3. There is no Aurora. We retired the SR-71 and the F-117 with nothing to follow. Go back to sleep now. Nothing to see here. ;-)


62 posted on 03/13/2008 8:04:24 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: tlb

tlb—great info,thanks for the link.


63 posted on 03/13/2008 8:10:06 PM PDT by exit82 (People get the government they deserve. And they are about to get it--in spades.)
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To: exit82
I ate lunch under a xb-70 at the Nation museum of the Air force in Dayton Ohio.
64 posted on 03/13/2008 8:22:31 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (It's a slow night so, In for a penny in for a pound.)
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To: El Gato
We sent F-117s,

Along with many EA-6Bs and EF-111s providing SEAD so those golf balls wouldn't be detected.

65 posted on 03/13/2008 8:30:46 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
What’s that beast? A Concord derivative bomber?

No, it predated the Concorde. As an aviation buff once told me, that plane had one purpose: make it clear that the US meant business when the thing took off. Apparently, its signature (radar, infrared) was so massive, that there would be no mistaking that we were pissed and that we were on the way.
66 posted on 03/13/2008 10:23:00 PM PDT by July 4th
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Unfortunately, supersonic and stealth don’t go well together.


67 posted on 03/14/2008 2:12:08 AM PDT by Erasmus (A strong bow is a terrible thing to waste. Please give to the Antonio Janigro College Fund.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Our neighbor, the late Emil Pipersky, helped design that and the SST at North American.

Now, there's the perfect name for a Russian light aircraft company!

68 posted on 03/14/2008 2:15:27 AM PDT by Erasmus (A strong bow is a terrible thing to waste. Please give to the Antonio Janigro College Fund.)
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To: halfright
Awesome trip...don’t go in May. Those crazy Ham radio operators take over the town.

May 16-18 this year. The main problem being that you can't find a hotel room within abut 30 miles.

69 posted on 03/14/2008 2:22:57 AM PDT by Erasmus (A strong bow is a terrible thing to waste. Please give to the Antonio Janigro College Fund.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why not have a supersonic stealth unmanned heavy bomber aircraft?

Like an ICBM?

70 posted on 03/14/2008 2:33:32 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Or a bunch of cruise missiles.


71 posted on 03/14/2008 2:36:22 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: July 4th
"If you really want to let a country know that we're coming... "

Leave that to the President. Since the USA's job of late is just enforcing UN resolutions, we announce our plans ahead of time.

72 posted on 03/14/2008 2:37:53 AM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
For those who wonder what's wrong with the paint on the XB-70 the answer is simple. It burned off on an earlier flight.

The B-58 was the fastest plane we had at the time. It held many world speed records until the SR-71 came along. The records were set by pilot Henry John Deutschendorf Sr. Many will recognize his son, Henry John Deutschendorf Jr. who sang under the name John Denver.

73 posted on 03/14/2008 2:47:43 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Renfield

Another bomber? We barely use the B-1’s and B-2’s. It seems that we always end up using the BUFF.


74 posted on 03/14/2008 3:59:16 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

75 posted on 03/14/2008 4:18:06 AM PDT by johnny7
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

I had no idea about the father / son connection! Too bad son wasn’t as good a pilot as dad.


76 posted on 03/14/2008 4:49:35 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: johnny7

Yup. Slightly smaller than the KC-135.


77 posted on 03/14/2008 4:55:04 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
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To: Erasmus

Saw some guys wearing antennas on their hats....knew I was in wrong part of town...Wright-Pat is east of town :)


78 posted on 03/14/2008 5:14:33 AM PDT by halfright ((carbon credits on sale now.....))
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To: El Gato

The way I see it its because of the Islamic problem the rest of mankind has had its technology stunted, all the money spent killing terrorists could have gone to better things.

Maybe someone will develop a surefire way to deal with this problem or the whole planet is going back to the stone age.


79 posted on 03/14/2008 5:28:51 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (The world WILL be cleaner, safer and more productive without Islam.)
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To: Renfield
There will be no “B-3.” There will be a stealthy, long-range UCAV that carries either a small load of small diameter PGMs or a single, large PGM. It will cruise in the high-subsonic range for very long ranges and be capable aerial refueling. It will have good sensors to allow it transmit targeting information back to its operator, but it will be perfectly capable of carrying out an attack on its own.
If the designers are smart, it will be able to operate off of carriers or be launched from subs as well as from airfields.
80 posted on 03/14/2008 5:36:04 AM PDT by Little Ray (It is time to drink the KoolAid: McCain for President!)
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