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Saddam had “no operational ties” to AQ: Pentagon
Hot Air ^ | March 11, 2008 | by Ed Morrissey

Posted on 03/11/2008 5:56:52 AM PDT by jdm

A new study commissioned by the Pentagon has reviewed over 600,000 documents captured in the invasion of Iraq, and the analysis shows no evidence of operational ties between Saddam Hussein’s regime and al-Qaeda. It did find operational ties and more between Saddam and other terrorist groups, however, which will likely be lost in an avalanche of I-told-you-sos:

An exhaustive review of more than 600,000 Iraqi documents that were captured after the 2003 U.S. invasion has found no evidence that Saddam Hussein’s regime had any operational links with Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaida terrorist network.

The Pentagon-sponsored study, scheduled for release later this week, did confirm that Saddam’s regime provided some support to other terrorist groups, particularly in the Middle East, U.S. officials told McClatchy Newspapers. However, his security services were directed primarily against Iraqi exiles, Shiite Muslims, Kurds and others he considered enemies of his regime.

The new study of the Iraqi regime’s archives found no documents indicating a “direct operational link” between Hussein’s Iraq and al-Qaida before the invasion, according to a U.S. official familiar with the report.

The study found, though, that Saddam Hussein turned Iraq into a state sponsor of terrorism, including for groups with “global” scope.  Saddam had openly bragged about some of his activities.  He made a great show of paying $25,000 to families of Palestinian suicide bombers, for instance, and at one point held a convention for international terrorists in Baghdad.

McClatchy reporter Warren Strobel also includes a strange passage in this report:

As recently as last July, Bush tried to tie al-Qaida to the ongoing violence in Iraq.

“The same people that attacked us on September the 11th is a crowd that is now bombing people, killing innocent men, women and children, many of whom are Muslims,” the president said.

That has little to do with pre-war intelligence.  Not too many people dispute that AQ has an active presence in Iraq in the post-invasion period, mostly because AQ keeps reminding people of it.  The argument which the Pentagon report addresses is whether AQ existed in Iraq before we invaded, or whether they entered Iraq as a consequence of the invasion.  Clearly, the Pentagon report believes it to be the latter.

As this report makes clear, though, Saddam sponsored terrorist groups outside of Iraq as well as conducted terror inside Iraq with his own security forces.  He made himself into a malevolent force in the region, and he represented a threat to American and Western interests in the region.  Had we let the sanctions regime collapse — which was what was happening when we invaded — Saddam would have restarted his WMD programs and would have continued in his ambitions to make himself the leader of a unified and hostile Arab state.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abledanger; alqaeda; alqaedaandiraq; intel; iraq; pentagon; prewardocs; prewarintelligence; saddam; ties; wmd
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To: jdm

Maybe Sadaam should ask for a do-over....


41 posted on 03/11/2008 6:35:52 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom ("My advice: Quit supporting the party that is symbolized by an ass." Ted Nugent)
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To: Jet Jaguar
She didn't. She is tried and true a fascist/communist supporter.

Hard to believe... I didn't think anyone that dumb could operate a computer, or even breathe.
42 posted on 03/11/2008 6:36:14 AM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: jdm

The source article healine reads,” Iraq had no link to al-Qaida.”

The text says, “... shows no evidence of operational ties between Saddam Hussein’s regime and al-Qaeda.”

There is a huge dufference in those two statements.

Then, there is this:

According to a top secret U.S. government memorandum obtained by The Weekly Standard,”Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein had an operational relationship from the early 1990s to 2003 that involved training in explosives and weapons of mass destruction, logistical support for terrorist attacks, al Qaeda training camps and safe haven in Iraq, and Iraqi financial support for al Qaeda.”

http://www.freedomsenemies.com/_more/saddamalqaeda.htm

What’s a body to believe?


43 posted on 03/11/2008 6:36:38 AM PDT by Beckwith (Dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: DTA
He was an enemy of AQ.

Rubbish. Prove it.

44 posted on 03/11/2008 6:36:54 AM PDT by SolidWood (All conservative effort into retaking Congress!)
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To: MurryMom

Hi there, MurryMom.

The therapy isn’t working, I see.


45 posted on 03/11/2008 6:41:18 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: DTA

Saddam was a thug

LOL you call a man who used biological chemicals on women and children a thug???????????????????????


46 posted on 03/11/2008 6:42:37 AM PDT by angcat (Indian name "She who yells too much")
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To: MurryMom
The only reason AQ still has any presence in a few provinces is that they are attracted by American soldiers. Most of the remaining population is willing to tolerat AQ's killing of occupation forces. After our troops leave, Sunnis, Shiites, and Kurds will find the AQ presence unacceptable and soon thereafter AQ will be expelled from Iraq.

Well just duh. Strange now isn't it that AQ would be attracted to killing US in any provinces on this globe. Think maybe that was a known to use their turf as the place to draw in a bunch of deranged killers. Or maybe you think it was unfair for US policy to be drawing a line in their sand pit.

The idea is not to expel them to another place but to rid this world of them once and for all. Here I thought the left was alll about saving things, why would you want them expelled to rebirth their barbaric slaughtering of innocence someplace else?

47 posted on 03/11/2008 6:44:30 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: DTA
Saddam's Chemical Weapons Campaign: Halabja, March 16, 1988
48 posted on 03/11/2008 6:44:48 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: MurryMom

Glad to see that you have not let facts get in the way of your beliefs...stop by more often...I promise that we will lock up all pointy and sharp things so you will not hurt yourself.


49 posted on 03/11/2008 6:46:00 AM PDT by crazyhorse691 (The faithful will keep their heads down, their powder dry and hammer at the enemies flanks.)
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To: mewzilla

Yep, Saddam had no WMD nor did he have the capacity to make them. /s


50 posted on 03/11/2008 6:51:28 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: jdm
.. and the analysis shows no evidence of operational ties between Saddam Hussein’s regime and al-Qaeda.

The operation procedure of any dictator is oral communication and no written documents concerning sensitive matters. Saddam was a dictator and the WMD a sensitive matter! Is any reason Saddam kick out from Iraq the UN inspectors?
51 posted on 03/11/2008 6:52:57 AM PDT by SeeSalt
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To: SeeSalt

The clear operational ties are also that both were Sunni, both hated America, both hated Israel, both hated Shiites and both wanted to kill them all.


52 posted on 03/11/2008 6:58:48 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: jdm
If an accurate description of the report language, this information will end up as part of the DNC campaign materials to be used against McCain. Before that, Obama will use it against Hillary.
53 posted on 03/11/2008 7:06:19 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: jdm
The problem with military and intelligence jargon, when released publicly, is that people think it means things it doesn't. "Operational ties" means AQ did not have an office in Saddam's HQ; they didn't call Saddam every time they planned a bombing; and they didn't have a place on the line-and-staff chart of the Iraqi government. It does not mean that they didn't receive intelligence, aid, support, money, advice, weapons, and all sorts of other help from Saddam, especially under the table.

To this day, the Czechs still stand by their claim that Mohammed Atta met with Al-Ani, the Iraqi foreign minister, not long before 9/11; that Atta's presence cannot be accounted for during that time; and more than one witness has said he personally escorted al-Qaeda leaders IN Iraq around before 9/11.

54 posted on 03/11/2008 7:08:03 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Slapshot68

Saddam violated all 17 points of the cease fire from 1991 Persian Gulf War. That should have been enough to depose this guy, but not for liberals who hate America. He also violated his agreements on weapons inspectors and UN oversight over his oil for palace program.


55 posted on 03/11/2008 7:10:35 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: jdm

This is old news. We have known for years that this was hyped up to scare nervous Nellie conservatives into supporting a Wilsonian war.


56 posted on 03/11/2008 7:11:46 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: jdm
The argument which the Pentagon report addresses is whether AQ existed in Iraq before we invaded, or whether they entered Iraq as a consequence of the invasion

I'm glad GWB has us playing as a "visitor" in their ballpark. I'd hate to have to play as the "home" team in this war. IMO

57 posted on 03/11/2008 7:12:22 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Senator McCain, what did GWB promise you back in 2000? And you believed him? BWAHAAAAA!)
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To: pnh102
The anti-US left (AKA dims) will use this as an excuse to divert attention away from their problems with the hildabeast vs. obama hussein.

They will, I predict, use this to initiate a new round of impeachment rhetoric against President Bush and, by association, John McCain.

58 posted on 03/11/2008 7:14:28 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: LS

The Czechs may stand by it but the U.S. government long ago rejected the Atta story. I remember that at the time this fairy tale was used to quite effectively to scare conservatives into believing that the war somehow related to national defense rather than the truth that it was a Wilsonisan crusade.


59 posted on 03/11/2008 7:15:27 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: pfflier
They will, I predict, use this to initiate a new round of impeachment rhetoric against President Bush and, by association, John McCain.

The way McCain has been campaigning for Obama as of late, I wouldn't be surprised if he immediately resigned his Senate seat, cuffed himself, and walked all the way to prison on his own.

60 posted on 03/11/2008 7:17:28 AM PDT by pnh102
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