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Will Fed Try Something New to Aid Markets?
Wall Street Journal ^ | 10 March 2008 | DAVID WESSEL

Posted on 03/10/2008 6:15:48 PM PDT by shrinkermd

With worsening strains in credit markets threatening to deepen and prolong an incipient recession, analysts are speculating that the Federal Reserve may be forced to consider more innovative responses -- perhaps buying mortgage-backed securities directly.

"As credit stresses intensify, the possibility of unconventional policy options by the Fed has gained considerable interest

...Since 1932, the Fed has had the authority to lend, against collateral, to individuals, partnerships or corporations other than banks in "unusual and exigent circumstances," subject to the vote of five members of the Board of Governors. (The board has seven seats, but two are currently vacant.) This power has never been used.

Mr. Feroli noted that Congress in 1966 gave the Fed temporary authority, made permanent in 1979, to purchase obligations of government-sponsored enterprises, such as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

So far, the Fed hasn't purchased GSE obligations except in its short-term repurchase operations. When the federal budget was in surplus, the Fed considered outright purchases of GSE obligations, but judged against such a move as it would reinforce the perception of an implicit government guarantee.

Last week, the Fed said it would lend banks $100 billion starting this week in 28-day loans through its new Term Auction Facility, at which banks can post a wide variety of collateral, including mortgages, corporate loans and other items that have become harder to sell in the open market. And it said it would make money-market loans of as much as $100 billion to its network of 20 bond dealers for 28 days, double the usual maximum term, and structure them to encourage dealers to submit mortgage-backed securities guaranteed by Fannie and Freddie Mac.

Sen. Christopher Dodd (D., Conn.), chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, has suggested creating a new government corporation that could buy mortgage-backed securities

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News
KEYWORDS: crisis; fed; stockmarket
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To: AndyJackson
LOL!

Your ignorance of how the money supply works hasn't changed in the last few months.

101 posted on 03/12/2008 8:15:26 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

LOL!

102 posted on 03/12/2008 10:17:43 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Toddsterpatriot

LOL!

103 posted on 03/12/2008 10:21:42 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

That’s fascinating. What does that have to do with the Fed’s temporary debt swap?


104 posted on 03/12/2008 10:27:36 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: AndyJackson
Wrong, I deny that gratuitous expansion of credit picks your pocket, not that it occurs or is deliberate policy.
105 posted on 03/12/2008 6:18:09 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: AndyJackson
Wrong, you spoke of those who benefit from new credit issuance, and that is not restricted to inside dealing, which of course occurs in all companies for all corporate officers quite irrespective of whether any new credit issuance occurs, or whether they are in banking, or any of the rest of it. Meaning the crack is a pure red herring and a class warfare slur, and yet another proof that the entire line of rhetoric is just a new mode of all purpose slander of any kind of capitalist class enemy, and not a substantive policy discussion.
106 posted on 03/12/2008 6:20:35 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: JasonC; Travis McGee
I deny that gratuitous expansion of credit picks your pocket

Oh really? Well, you are a fool because it also picks your pocket. All those folks who own Park Ave condo's, and fly private jets to vacation houses in the Virgin Islands. That was all bought with money derived through expansion of credit, and it is drawing on goods and services in the US economy, driving up the prices of goods and services that I would like to purchase with my salary. So yes, damned straight it picks my pocket.

107 posted on 03/12/2008 7:20:00 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: JasonC
Meaning the crack is a pure red herring and a class warfare slur, and yet another proof that the entire line of rhetoric is just a new mode of all purpose slander of any kind of capitalist class enemy, and not a substantive policy discussion.

Could you try writing that in English? Pretty please?

108 posted on 03/12/2008 7:21:13 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson
No, it doesn't pick my pocket and it doesn't pick yours either.

Park ave condos existed and were owned before you were born and have nothing to do with contemporary credit.

The rest is the same tired class warfare nonsense.

Everything anyone ever does in economic life changes the value of every commodity you possess, and plenty you don't possess. Is this a reason for no one else to be allowed to perform any economic action of any kind? It is not.

If one man lends to another to fund some new production, neither of them you, and the loan is sensible and makes economic sense and produces new value, then there is more value in the world after it than before, and none of that value is yours. Does that pick your pocket? It does not.

If two men agree to work together to make something, do so, and others like it and bid for it, and in doing so are drawn away from something else you work at or own or sell, does this pick your pocket? No, it does not. Buggy whip makers aren't robbed by Henry Ford. The value of their goods and services changes, but they had no prior right to those values, beyond their real usefulness to other men.

And you have the freedom to pick every commodity you want to hold or own, and to avoid any other. If you think one class of them is a bad deal, you needn't hold it, and you are not wronged in any way by someone else choosing to, even unwisely.

If some potential customer of yours goes to Vegas and bets on red and loses, and then can't buy something you offer, you have not been wronged by the house in Vegas, or by him. Because you had no prior right to the value of his goods. The bare potential that he might choose to do things that would benefit you more than what he did choose to do, is not an economic right that can be violated if that doesn't pan out.

You are not wronged in any way by modern financiers and their modern finance. Sometimes other free men will even manage to do stupid things that make everything harder for the whole society, because it is poorer for their mistakes than it would have been for more enlightened decisions. But that still isn't wronging you, because you have no prior right to other men always using their freedom wisely. It is their freedom, not yours, and they are not your slaves.

You need an attitude adjustment, stat. Also, you haven't got a conservative bone in your body and you are on the wrong site, thinking as you do.

109 posted on 03/12/2008 9:22:01 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: AndyJackson
You are flat making it up, because you've been programmed by jerks to hate rich people, you don't understand finance to know better, and you have bought a line of socialist bullfeathers.
110 posted on 03/12/2008 9:23:42 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: JasonC
SP500 in September 2002, 815. SP500 in September 2007, 1525. That was an 87% rise in 5 years not counting the dividends, and in excess of a 15% annual return counting them. That is a bull market. No, you don't have a right to that as normalcy, and no, it won't be monotonic, or average that fast over whole cycles including the drops, since the economy grows half that fast. But it was a bull market, as fast and as big as they generally come, and pretending anything to the contrary is simply pretending --- and ridiculous.

Golly, I wish I had a time machine so I could go back and buy all my stocks at the bottom, and then a crystal ball so I could sell them at the top. By September of 2002, the market had 18 months to react to W's ignorant economic speeches and his equally ignorant economic policies. And by September of 2007, the facade is finally wearing out.

Now go back and figure the rates of return for the major indices from when W took office, January 20, 2001 until now. It's not pretty. There is a chance the markets could recover by the end of the year as people anticipate one of the worst economic presidents ever leaving office.

It's too bad for you that economic performance isn't measured by the price of oil, though I wouldn't be surprised if that's the way W does it.

111 posted on 03/12/2008 10:45:34 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: JasonC

“But we do not have rational men in command, we have whiners and blame games and socialists and enemies determined to destroy capitalism and sow all the political division they can.”

Excellent “to do” list. And for Prez we will get John McCain who knows little about economics. Great. Hope to heck he surrounds himself with good men, but I won’t hold my breath and turn blue.


112 posted on 03/12/2008 10:58:26 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Algore: send global warming to Chicago area; will pay any carbon tax - desperate)
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To: montag813

“Last week, the Fed said it would lend banks $100 billion
Where does this come from exactly? The Chinese bond buyers?”

Actually I’m afraid they have started up the printing presses and are churning out the money, made-up money.


113 posted on 03/12/2008 11:01:22 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Algore: send global warming to Chicago area; will pay any carbon tax - desperate)
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To: ex-Texan


114 posted on 03/13/2008 4:25:49 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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To: ex-Texan


115 posted on 03/13/2008 4:51:02 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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To: JasonC
If one man lends to another to fund some new production, neither of them you, and the loan is sensible and makes economic sense and produces new value, then there is more value in the world after it than before, and none of that value is yours. Does that pick your pocket? It does not.

That's a nice red herring, but that's not what happens when the Fed creates credit. To put it simply, my committed capital loses value when they do that. My long term investment in productive capacity is swamped by the speculative leverage fueled by cheap credit. As a producer I might get lucky and get an LBO, but it is much more likely I will find all my inputs costing much more, long term capital costing much more or unavailable.

116 posted on 03/13/2008 4:59:55 AM PDT by palmer
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To: JasonC; AndyJackson
“Gratuitous expansion of credit” sure does pick your pocket. Ever hear of monetary inflation? That increase in prices you must pay is a result of the extra thin air money created. Every year your dollars are worth less, via this mechanism. It's not exactly a news flash.
117 posted on 03/13/2008 5:55:17 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Moonman62
Ridiculous, W is not responsible for the 2000 bubble, nor the recession that began before he took office, nor the 9-11 attacks and resulting war.

But he cut taxes when he was supposed to and between that and the loose Fed we got a bull market. Which you tried to pretend didn't happen, for some unfathomable reason - maybe your DU loyalties I suppose.

118 posted on 03/13/2008 6:44:56 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: flaglady47
You don't need to hold your breath to turn blue, it seems.
119 posted on 03/13/2008 6:45:40 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: flaglady47
No, whenever the Fed buys anything, new money is created, because money is the debt of the Fed. Printing, on the other hand, happens when and if individual despositers decide they would rather hold physical paper notes instead of bank deposits, and does not change the effective money supply. It just alters the form in which a bit of it at the margin, appears.
120 posted on 03/13/2008 6:48:29 AM PDT by JasonC
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