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[Republican] Crossover voting was heavy -- and maybe illegal: Ohio
Cleveland Plian Dealer ^ | March 08, 2008 | Amanda Garrett

Posted on 03/08/2008 7:20:22 PM PST by rface

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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Thats the best line in the whole article. They do believe Party over country though.


81 posted on 03/08/2008 9:26:19 PM PST by MaxMax (I need a life after politics)
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To: cajungirl

“Arrest every republican and put them in reeducation camps.”

They’re not called reeducation camps anymore... they’re called “universities.”


82 posted on 03/08/2008 9:26:37 PM PST by Brucifer (G. W. Bush "The dog ate my copy of the Constitution.")
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To: bill1952
ROFLMAO! Yeah, that will stand up in court.

All it takes is an activist judge to null the votes ALL of them you know its possible none of these politicians even pay attention to anything but what they can steal or twist into power

I told folks at work the same thing that were planning on switching they had much of the same reactions they laughed when i reminded them of the activist judges they got sober looking real quick !

I noticed people at our polls changing over when they asked me how i voted i blurted out Conservative without thinking about they dont have the option of conservative on the books lol it turned a few heads and got an elbow from my wife lol ...told me to calm down hell i didnt even realize i was being loud till after i she nudged me lol....oh well

83 posted on 03/08/2008 9:30:39 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (http://eaglecooler.wordpress.com/)
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To: MaxMax
Thats the best line in the whole article. They do believe Party over country though.

Yea and they beleive in self over party and everyone else they are double negatives even unto themselves .

84 posted on 03/08/2008 9:34:41 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (http://eaglecooler.wordpress.com/)
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To: cherry

Hillary plays the moderate, but we all know what she really is.


85 posted on 03/08/2008 9:38:18 PM PST by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: ImaTexan

PING


86 posted on 03/08/2008 9:40:51 PM PST by bjcintennessee (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
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To: rface

Brokeback voting.


87 posted on 03/08/2008 9:42:56 PM PST by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: rface
Primary voters shouldn't be allowed to switch their party registration later than 150 days before a primary election. As it now stands, in many states the crossover vote can and sometimes does rob a party of it's candidate who is the most likely to win in the general election. The simple principle of fair play says that is wrong no matter which party does it.

Yeah I know, playing fair usually loses and cheating usually wins in our seriously corrupted voting system, but even in a somewhat less than perfect world it wouldn't work that way.

88 posted on 03/08/2008 10:03:10 PM PST by epow (The scriptures teach that rulers should be men who rule in the fear of God, - Noah Webster,1823)
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To: rface

This article is a joke. A political party cannot impose a legally binding oath upon it’s members any more than a church can.


89 posted on 03/08/2008 10:16:44 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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To: M203M4

>> while our masters abide by nothing in this context.

And strangely, the voters elect the masters. It’s a shame a good portion of the electorate insists on destroying the Country and the liberty she provides.


90 posted on 03/08/2008 10:22:47 PM PST by Gene Eric
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To: red flanker

Thousand of voters (with a conscience) had to immediately wash themselves after casting a ballot for the beast.

91 posted on 03/08/2008 11:44:20 PM PST by red flanker
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To: rface

She won by ten points. Crossovers would not have done that much.


92 posted on 03/08/2008 11:46:59 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: rface

nonsense ...from the SOS of Ohio

How do I establish which political party’s ballot I am entitled to vote?
You may vote the primary ballot of the political party with which you currently wish to be affiliated. If you voted the primary ballot of a different political party in 2005 or 2006, you will complete a statement at your polling place confirming the change in your political party affiliation.

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/PublicAffairs/VoterInfoGuide.aspx?Section=15

I worked the polls this year and we specifically asked this question and was told it was no problem to switch over


93 posted on 03/08/2008 11:56:48 PM PST by boxerblues
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To: rface

The Rat party leaders in Ohio have room temperature IQs.

In Celsius.

(Of course I have rtIQ also, but mine’s in Kelvins.)

< }B^)


94 posted on 03/09/2008 12:59:44 AM PST by Erasmus (Exile from Gondwanaland)
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To: rface

Oh, yeah, there has never been crossover voting by Democrats. What a crock of crap.


95 posted on 03/09/2008 5:30:45 AM PDT by calex59
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To: rface

My email to this ignorant “journalist”:

Did you read the code before you made reported that it may be illegal? In 5 minutes one could find out that the penalties of election falsification fall under 3505.20 as it relates to ONLY (A) non-citizens, (B) non-resident of state, (C) non-resident of precinct, and (D) not of legal voting age. Are you that lazy that you could not have researched it yourself? Now you have the two percenters of America & Ohio ranting and raving based on poor journalism. Nice job.

§ 3513.20. Statement of challenged person; provisional ballot.
Before any challenged person shall be allowed to vote at a primary election, the person shall make a statement, under penalty of election falsification, before one of the precinct officials, blanks for which shall be furnished by the board of elections, giving name, age, residence, length of residence in the precinct, county, and state; stating that the person desires to be affiliated with and supports the principles of the political party whose ballot the person desires to vote; and giving all other facts necessary to determine whether the person is entitled to vote in that primary election. The statement shall be returned to the office of the board with the pollbooks and tally sheets. If a person challenged refuses to make that statement under penalty of election falsification, the person shall be permitted to vote a provisional ballot under section 3505.181 [3505.18.1] of the Revised Code. If a majority of the precinct officials finds that the statements of a person challenged or the person’s voting record or other evidence shows that the person lacks any of the qualifications required to make the person a qualified elector at the primary election or that the person is not affiliated with or is not a member of the political party whose ballot the person desires to vote, the person shall be permitted to vote a provisional ballot under section 3505.181 [3505.18.1] of the Revised Code.

§ 3505.20. Challenges.

Any person offering to vote may be challenged at the polling place by any judge of elections. If the board of elections has ruled on the question presented by a challenge prior to election day, its finding and decision shall be final, and the presiding judge shall be notified in writing. If the board has not ruled, the question shall be determined as set forth in this section. If any person is so challenged as unqualified to vote, the presiding judge shall tender the person the following oath: “You do swear or affirm under penalty of election falsification that you will fully and truly answer all of the following questions put to you concerning your qualifications as an elector at this election.”

(A) If the person is challenged as unqualified on the ground that the person is not a citizen, the judges shall put the following questions:

(1) Are you a citizen of the United States?

(2) Are you a native or naturalized citizen?

(3) Where were you born?

(4) What official documentation do you possess to prove your citizenship? Please provide that documentation.

If the person offering to vote claims to be a naturalized citizen of the United States, the person shall, before the vote is received, produce for inspection of the judges a certificate of naturalization and declare under oath that the person is the identical person named in the certificate. If the person states under oath that, by reason of the naturalization of the person’s parents or one of them, the person has become a citizen of the United States, and when or where the person’s parents were naturalized, the certificate of naturalization need not be produced. If the person is unable to provide a certificate of naturalization on the day of the election, the judges shall provide to the person, and the person may vote, a provisional ballot under section 3505.181 of the Revised Code. The provisional ballot shall not be counted unless it is properly completed and the board of elections determines that the voter is properly registered and eligible to vote in the election.

(B) If the person is challenged as unqualified on the ground that the person has not resided in this state for thirty days immediately preceding the election, the judges shall put the following questions:

(1) Have you resided in this state for thirty days immediately preceding this election? If so, where have you resided?

(2) Did you properly register to vote?

(3) Can you provide some form of identification containing your current mailing address in this precinct? Please provide that identification.

(4) Have you voted or attempted to vote at any other location in this or in any other state at this election?

(5) Have you applied for an absent voter’s ballot in any state for this election?

If the judges are unable to verify the person’s eligibility to cast a ballot in the election, the judges shall provide to the person, and the person may vote, a provisional ballot under section 3505.181 [3505.18.1] of the Revised Code. The provisional ballot shall not be counted unless it is properly completed and the board of elections determines that the voter is properly registered and eligible to vote in the election.

(C) If the person is challenged as unqualified on the ground that the person is not a resident of the precinct where the person offers to vote, the judges shall put the following questions:

(1) Do you reside in this precinct?

(2) When did you move into this precinct?

(3) When you came into this precinct, did you come for a temporary purpose merely or for the purpose of making it your home?

(4) What is your current mailing address?

(5) Do you have some official identification containing your current address in this precinct? Please provide that identification.

(6) Have you voted or attempted to vote at any other location in this or in any other state at this election?

(7) Have you applied for any absent voter’s ballot in any state for this election?

The judges shall direct an individual who is not in the appropriate polling place to the appropriate polling place. If the individual refuses to go to the appropriate polling place, or if the judges are unable to verify the person’s eligibility to cast a ballot in the election, the judges shall provide to the person, and the person may vote, a provisional ballot under section 3505.181 [3505.18.1] of the Revised Code. The provisional ballot shall not be counted unless it is properly completed and the board of elections determines that the voter is properly registered and eligible to vote in the election.

(D) If the person is challenged as unqualified on the ground that the person is not of legal voting age, the judges shall put the following questions:

(1) Are you eighteen years of age or more?

(2) What is your date of birth?

(3) Do you have some official identification verifying your age? Please provide that identification.

If the judges are unable to verify the person’s age and eligibility to cast a ballot in the election, the judges shall provide to the person, and the person may vote, a provisional ballot under section 3505.181 [3505.18.1] of the Revised Code. The provisional ballot shall not be counted unless it is properly completed and the board of elections determines that the voter is properly registered and eligible to vote in the election.

The presiding judge shall put such other questions to the person challenged as are necessary to determine the person’s qualifications as an elector at the election. If a person challenged refuses to answer fully any question put to the person, is unable to answer the questions as they were answered on the registration form by the person under whose name the person offers to vote, or refuses to sign the person’s name or make the person’s mark, or if for any other reason a majority of the judges believes the person is not entitled to vote, the judges shall provide to the person, and the person may vote, a provisional ballot under section 3505.181 [3505.18.1] of the Revised Code. The provisional ballot shall not be counted unless it is properly completed and the board of elections determines that the voter is properly registered and eligible to vote in the election.

A qualified citizen who has certified the citizen’s intention to vote for president and vice-president as provided by Chapter 3504. of the Revised Code shall be eligible to receive only the ballot containing presidential and vice-presidential candidates.

However, prior to the nineteenth day before the day of an election and in accordance with section 3503.24 of the Revised Code, any person qualified to vote may challenge the right of any other person to be registered as a voter, or the right to cast an absent voter’s ballot, or to make application for such ballot. Such challenge shall be made in accordance with section 3503.24 of the Revised Code, and the board of elections of the county in which the voting residence of the challenged voter is situated shall make a final determination relative to the legality of such registration or application.


96 posted on 03/13/2008 6:25:42 AM PDT by HD1200
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To: HD1200
(to the reporter) Did you read the code before you made reported that it may be illegal?

I'm sure that you meant this as a rhetorical question. But you don't even have to read the code to understand that something is afoul with "loyalty pledge" in the US. I'm sure his legal corroborator confirmed this.

97 posted on 03/20/2008 10:04:21 AM PDT by 11th Commandment (Elect Conservatives- if you don't vote for McCain, at least work to elect conservatives!)
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