Posted on 03/08/2008 12:58:16 AM PST by JohnHuang2
National and California home-schooling advocates are banding together to fight a state court ruling they say could essentially outlaw the practice of allowing parents to teach their children at home.
The Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA) and the Home School Association of California (HSC) say the court decision, which said home-schooling parents must have a valid state teaching license and they have no constitutional right to home-school, takes aim at the education programs many families use to get exemption from the public school system.
"We're kind of in shock," said Mike Smith, HSLDA president.
The Los Angeles-based case began when the county petitioned to have two home-schooled children enrolled in public or private school after an older sibling accused the father of abuse. A lower state court ruled against that idea, citing a constitutional right held by parents to educate their children at home. The appeals court disagreed and reversed that ruling.
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Sounds like it’s time to start impeaching judges.
[The Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA) and the Home School Association of California (HSC) say the court decision, which said home-schooling parents must have a valid state teaching license and they have no constitutional right to home-school, takes aim at the education programs many families use to get exemption from the public school system.
“We’re kind of in shock,” said Mike Smith, HSLDA president.]
The secular humanist God haters of America are doing what the socialist Hitler did in the 1930’s and what communists do in all nations they abide in, they simply make unconstituional laws to bring all children under their humanist educational program so that none but the state can train the mush minded children what to believe truth is. It could be seen years ago by the wise, but the fools pass on and are punished. The cost of not believing God and His Christ is coming due and America’s children will be the victims of athiest humanism and the future murderers of those who love God and His Christ first and foremost.
What suprises me is that the HSA is shocked when the communist politicians of California, with the blessings of athiest people nationwide are shocked, the socialist marxists of Europe should have been their first inkling of such evil coming to America.
Actually, with the current climate in this country, dating back many years now, I’m surprised this didn’t happen much sooner.
[And schools with a shortage of teachers some times hire people who are not fully accredited!]
My guess is that the accredation is but a scam to legitimize the evil the athiest marxists support. I mean, does the government schools really educate anymore with all the so called accredited liars and fools that teach the helpless children nowdays? What they do not realize is their children are the victims of their own arrorgance and stupidity also.
THIS is a case that needs to go all the way to the SCOTUS....
[Believe me, their next proposal will be to take your children AWAY from you. Think I’m kidding? There are politicians who are suggesting that right now, under the guise of “child protection,” wherein they equate religious instruction and “anti-left” rhetoric in the home to be as harmful to a child as physical and mental abuse and neglect.]
Yes indeed. And McCain will reach across the aisle and but stregthen the power mad pols to continue their destruction of American education and citizens constitutional rights. It is why I will vote third party conservative rather than liberal lite. The socialist left is insane and can not be healed and are at the same position in thinking as the nazi peoples in Hitlers days as they sent the brown shirt mush minded children to the indoctrination centers called government schools. But their is an interesting twist, the new neo nazi movement consists mainly of pagan feminists and may be the first matriarchial socialist marxist movement in history.
The government demand that home-schoolers have a state teaching certification is nothing but a job protection favor for the public schools.
My wife was a certified teacher in the early 1990's. The certification maintenance classes are BS money grabs. She paid $500 to $1000 out of my pocket to take classes like "I Scream - You Scream - We All Scream For Self Esteem" during which she was forced to watch "On Golden Pond".
Needless to say, once she started staying home to raise our kids, we dumped the certification. Now that we are homeschooling and her license has long ago lapsed, I guess she isn't "Kwalified."
[Rush you are in a panic and are now leading the troops in the wrong direction.]
I have to respectfully disagree. He is right once again and even if he went with McCain, I would walk the right path anyway and vote third party conservative. Heck, if McCain is elected, the GOP might run Hillary as a republican next time, it is that bad.
I wonder how it is that private schools can teach children at all without licensed teachers?
It sure would be nice to see the MSM question the conventional wisdon that the majority opinion is always correct (AGW, Rat presidencies, local tax levies for BS services, the fact that Maxine Waters was elected to her positon......). I tend to think that the majority is very often incorrect.
Very, very funny! ( Laughing!) :-)
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Ah Ha! I have just had an epiphany! THAT is why Arnold came out in defense of homeschoolers! IT'S the MONEY!
Just how could Arnold balance the state budget if 166,000 homeschoolers showed up on the government schools’ doorsteps?
By the way, I've seen numbers from 166,000 to 200,000, but this is likely a gross UNDERcount! It is likely double that.
I sympathize with you and your wife and wish you success in the face of the Socialization of the world.
It’s been a wonderful method whereby they can tell who to maintain contact with and who not.
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Yes! Children need to know quickly who they will let into their inner circle of friendships!
Why is this important? The reason this is important is:
1) ALL liberals are really Marxists. Scratch a liberal and under his thin skin is a socialist. Dig a little deeper and you will soon find the Marxist nuclear fuel rods that drive everything he says and does.
2) ALL Marxists lie!
3) Anyone who is a liberal/Marxist is too stupid or evil to be a friend.
4) Finally, liberal policies are like train stops on a railway line. ALL liberal policies are merely train stops. The finally destination is MARXIST slavery!
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Worth repeating.
A shocking ruling. Judges have too much power and too often rule on their whim.
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Private schools seek out uncertified teachers because a teacher with a government credential is often NOT the most qualified. Many of the most expensive and elite private schools take **pride** in, and boast about, **never** hiring a certified teacher.
Private teachers receive what the free market believes they are worth and what the private teacher is willing to accept. Government school teachers work in a price-fixed, monopoly system that does not reflect their true worth. In a true free market, a government teacher may likely receive **LESS** than what current uncertified private school teachers are receiving now. In fact, they could be held in so little esteem that they would be completely unemployed!
In **my** free market homeschool, I was willing to pay both the certified and uncertified a great big $0. Both certified and uncertified were unemployed in my free market school!
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Government schools are unconstitutional!
Government schools and freedom of conscience can not coexist!
Government schools violate every provision of the First Amendment!
Government schools imprison children who have committed no crime!
Government schools treat children like prisoners!
The above should be self evident, but it is sad. It is amazing to me how so many conservatives miss these points, and believe government schools can be reformed.
To my knowledge, no court has ever ruled on the constitutionality of government schools. What they do, when conflicts among warring citizen groups arise, is rule **very** narrowly on the specific issue before the court.
I find it exasperating!
However,,,I am becoming more hopeful. I am seeing in the conservative media the idea that government schools can not be religiously neutral. The next step is for the conservatives writers to see that EVERY First Amendment protection is violated by the government schools.
I am afraid that the Marxists who control the government schools may succeed in destroying another generation or two. By the time conservatives finally realize what is happening, it will be too late to turn back the Marxist march to slavery.
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