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Golfer Faces Charges in Hawk Killing
Breitbart ^ | 6 march 2008 | TRAVIS REED

Posted on 03/06/2008 2:38:01 PM PST by oblomov

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To: SWAMPSNIPER
If my love of nature makes me liberal, in your mind, so be it.

I love nature, too. I get out of the car to move turtles off the road.

But to hit a bird with a golf ball, any bird at all, and punish a man for doing it, for any reason at all is a liberal act.

121 posted on 03/12/2008 5:16:24 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Jay Redhawk
The point is that there was no reason to take the hawk’s life.

The point is that God gave mankind dominion over the creatures of the Earth, absolute sovereignty, each and every man, and if a man trespass his responsibility, it is God who will judge. The tiniest part of the welfare on any one man is worth an uncountable number of birds.

You may not like but, it is not your or society's call to make.

122 posted on 03/12/2008 5:30:01 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
Don't try to cloak yourself in religion. Where in the Bible does God tell man to wantonly slaughter animals without good reason? If you want to let God do the judging then why should we try murderers? I am sure you do not know the answer so let me tell you. In a civil society there are rules that people are asked to live by. Those who refuse to follow the rules have to be dealt with for the protection of society. There is not always time to wait for God's judgment. If you think that killing an animal is not a crime then I suppose you would be willing to just let it slide if a person killed your pet for fun.
No big deal right?
Some of us enjoy wildlife, and take great pleasure in watching God's creatures. Killing animals for no purpose is not the proper way in which man is to exhibit dominion over the animals. Yes, human life is more valuable than that of a bird, but it doesn’t mean that man is free to kill and torment the lesser living creatures.
123 posted on 03/12/2008 8:34:44 PM PDT by Jay Redhawk (multiculturalism equals surrender)
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To: William Terrell

Frankly if the bird was too stupid to take the hint, it seems like it would only improve the gene pool.


124 posted on 03/12/2008 8:36:12 PM PDT by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: dfwgator

What would improve the gene pool most would be the elimination of pro football, and pro sports in general!
Bunch of steroid enlarged pretty boys, raking in the big bucks, from a bunch of couch potatos!


125 posted on 03/13/2008 2:15:15 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Jay Redhawk
Don't try to cloak yourself in religion.

We have to cloak it in the terms that hold human beings higher than animals. If we don't, we slide right back to the old customs that hold human life as worthless.

Where in the Bible does God tell man to wantonly slaughter animals without good reason?

Where God gives dominion over all the creatures of the Earth to mankind. Dominion means dominion, your choice of emotionally load words notwithstanding.

If you want to let God do the judging then why should we try murderers?

Because murderers kill human beings, and kill them in such a way that it makes them dangerous to the rest of society (human beings). This is distinguishable from manslaughter and wrongful death.

People who kill an animal are not murderers. The implication that the murder of human beings is equivalent to killing an animal is disturbing.

If someone were to kill my pet for fun, I would sustain personal damage. The killing of a wild bird causes no one personal damage. Except some rather confused outrage from liberal programing.

Some of us enjoy wildlife, and take great pleasure in watching God's creatures. Killing animals for no purpose is not the proper way in which man is to exhibit dominion over the animals. Yes, human life is more valuable than that of a bird, but it doesn’t mean that man is free to kill and torment the lesser living creatures.

I enjoy wildlife. I go out of my way to avoid a squirrel on the road and move turtles out of the way of traffic. I kill deer because I like to eat them.

But this comes from inside, not by force of law, which law was instituted by liberal institutions, who use it to damage society and individuals who challenge their green agenda.

You cannot separate the radical green agenda from the statutes it lobbies into legislation, or the constant conditioning of people with that agenda.

The endangered species act, what is being used on this person, is one of those blocs of legislation.

If you do not like what this guy did, write him a letter. Join with others and all of you write him a letter. Write a letter to the editor or an article. Protest in front of his house for a time. Spread the word.

But don't use the force of asinine law to damage him. Take the responsibility yourself

126 posted on 03/13/2008 7:13:32 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: dfwgator
A good point. Plus, the notion that a golfer can tee off and hit a bird deliberately with his skill is ludicrous. Let's see if he can do it again


127 posted on 03/13/2008 7:16:37 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: oblomov

This guy’s carer could be ruined for this stupidity. Imagine PETA members screaming in his backswing, every backswing, every hole, every tournament.


128 posted on 03/13/2008 7:17:02 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: capt. norm

Who can finish this proverb...” HE WHO KILL HAWK WITH GOLF BALL.....”


129 posted on 03/13/2008 7:23:50 AM PDT by jetson
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To: William Terrell

What is disturbing is the lack of value you place on a living creatures life. All creatures have a purpose, and for man to interrupt that purpose for no good reason is simply wrong. This hawk was not killed to be eaten, or killed because it had become a danger to man. The bird was just killed for some guys kicks.
Of course the killing of an animal should not be equated with the killing of a human being, but that does not mean it should go unpunished. A wild bird is something given by God for all of us to enjoy. I would bet that most golfers at that course enjoyed watching that hawk and the other nearby wildlife. Those golfers were all deprived of something they enjoyed. The young man that did this needs to be taught a lesson.
I would prefer not to use the force of law to punish him; however, political correctness frowns upon kicking someone’s ass these days.


130 posted on 03/13/2008 7:47:02 PM PDT by Jay Redhawk (multiculturalism equals surrender)
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To: Jay Redhawk
I would prefer not to use the force of law to punish him; however, political correctness frowns upon kicking someone’s ass these days.

But you are on the side of using the law, which means if you had the authority to apply that law, you would, or be a hypocrite.

I said nothing about physical assault. You brought that up. I said writing letters and pretesting, spreading the word of your outrage.

Every time you use a bad law, you give it strength, until you feel it, and the children of its precedent, nibbling at your heels. You let the emotional application of the law go on long enough, you find yourself in a state run by the media and people that don't have your interests at heart.

131 posted on 03/14/2008 8:11:48 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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