Posted on 03/06/2008 12:25:16 PM PST by NormsRevenge
In July of last year, Hillary Clinton gave an interview to New York Times reporter Michael Luo about her faith. It’s a fairly in depth interview. Well, for your listening pleasure, The Brody File found the actual audio from the interview and it’s real interesting.
Reading the transcription of the interview is one thing but hearing Hillary Clinton talk about her faith is very different. Listen here. You can read the transcription here.
At the time, the article got significant play but some of the quotes from the whole interview never got used in the article. Here are some key quotes that I thought you might be interested to look at:
Hillary Clinton: I believe in the father, son, and Holy Spirit, and I have felt the presence of the Holy Spirit on many occasions in my years on this earth.
Reporter: Can I ask you theologically, do you believe that the resurrection of Jesus actually happened, that it actually historically did happen?
Senator Clinton: Yes, I do.
Reporter: And, do you believe on the salvation issue -- and this is controversial too -- that belief in Christ is needed for going to heaven?
Senator Clinton: That one I’m a little more open to. I think that it is, as we understand our relationship to God as Christians, it is how we see our way forward, and it is the way. But, ever since I was a little girl, I’ve asked every Sunday school teacher I’ve ever had, I asked every theologian I’ve ever talked with, whether that meant that there was no salvation, there was no heaven for people who did not accept Christ. And, you’re well aware that there are a lot of answers to that. There are people who are totally rooted in the fact that, no, that’s why there are missionaries, that’s why you have to try to convert. And, then there are a lot of other people who are deeply faithful and deeply Christ-centered who say, that’s how we understand it and who are we to read God’s mind about such a weighty decision as that.
Reporter: And your attitude toward the Bible about how literally people should take it...
Senator Clinton: I think the whole Bible is real. The whole Bible gives you a glimpse of God and God’s desire for a personal relationship, but we can’t possibly understand every way God is communicating with us. I’ve always felt that people who try to shoehorn in their cultural and social understandings of the time into the Bible might be actually missing the larger point that we’re supposed to take from the Bible.
Based on this post, you can drop the "evangelical" part from your bio.
Scriptures saying that it is not ruled out, you mean?
I’m not really interested in getting in a big discussion about this, because it is a complicated subject. But have you ever noticed how the Bible is never quite as unambiguous as we, with our human failings, would like it to be? This is one good example. The Bible, for instance, ususally does not refer to “the afterlife”, but rather to “eternal life” or “cometh onto the father”. It was well known in antiquity that eternity is not simply temporal in nature. So “eternal life” may mean temporal eternity after death, but it could also mean a current life in contemplation of, or in contact with, eternity understood as God’s realm outside space and time. Same with “cometh onto the father.” Likewise, it is not entirely unambiguous what is meant by Christ being “the way, the truth and the light”. Notice that it does not unambiguously say that you must believe without doubt that Jesus the historical human being literally and physically was the literal son of God, died on a cross, was resurrected bodily and ascended bodily, in order to pursue the Way.
LOL, fine. I’m not big on labels anyway. Are you?
Anything is possible - if she were to turn back to the light while it office, it would completely destroy the Pro-Abort hold on the Democrat party.
Saul once killed Christians. All things are possible.
Yup...there is no way on Earth or Heaven that the Beast is listening to the Holy Spirit. If she were, she would declare to all that she was wrong in pushing abortion, and repent for all the untold tens of millions of babies killed by her “pro-choice” side.
Ed
You can not come to that conclusion with the Bible. Jesus said, He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day. John 12:48
That is either the truth or a lie but it can't be both.
But some things are more likely than others...
Reporter: And your attitude toward the Bible about how literally people should take it.
Senator Clinton: “........ I’ve always felt that people who try to shoehorn in their cultural and social understandings of the time into the Bible might be actually missing the larger point that we’re supposed to take from the Bible.
you mean the bible is NOT a living/breathing document as you maintain our Constitution is ????
Your post is a non-sequitor.
How does the scripture you cite contradict my claim?
Now you can drop "Christian" from your bio as well. You are not a Christian.
“I know many liberal Christians and they are quite sincere in their faith. I don’t think attacking someone’s religion gets our cause anywhere...”
Agree. Assuming this is what Hillary sincerely believes in her heart, then so be it.
Many of us would have differences with her theologically, but heart-felt beliefs of Hillary or any professed Christian are ultimately between them and the Lord God, it seems to me.
Such theological differences can certainly be “tests of fellowship”, but that’s a far cry from saying “you don’t believe what you profess to believe”. We can get on shaky ground when we try to say that we can “know her innermost heart”, an attribute that God reserved for Himself.
At least, that’s the way I look at it.
You brought up a good point, one day Hillary is embracing Obama the next day she is yelling “SHAME ON YOU OBAMA!!!”
It just goes to show you that Hillary has no problem delibertly being misleading. I know it’s difficult when someone makes the claim to be a Christian, but we must remember that Hillary Clinton is a real piece of work. She must never be President, and I still can’t get over the fact that Rush Limbaugh was telling people to vote for her just to cause the Democrats problems. Is he kidding? I am starting to think he might be a fraud. There is no excuse for him to take that position.
“Now you can drop “Christian” from your bio as well. You are not a Christian.”
Any scriptural authority for your claim?
Agreed!
What part of “I Am the way...” don’t you understand? The Bible clearly from Genesis all the way through spells it out. There is no other way to come to the Father except by the Son. There can be no wavering on that point. If you give that up, you give up everything.
Thus, I hope she is sincere, but only God can see her heart. I can only judge her from what she has done, and even in that I do not know her personally.
I only dare to judge her in the arena of politics, lest I end up like the servant who after being forgiven a large debt refused to forgive a small debt from a fellow servant. For whatever portion of wrong doing she has done to me personally is small compared to what God can claim against me, and yet has graciously forgiven.
To the degree my heart yearns for her to be forbidden in Heaven, I condemn myself as well. Thus I dare not wish such a thing, and hope you would not do so either.
Of coarse I would never vote for her under any plausible scenario (implausible ones would include the other candidate being the anti-Christ and such).
I agree with you as far as you go. My point is that we are unjustifiably dogmatic in our understanding of what this scripture means.
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