Posted on 03/04/2008 4:42:42 PM PST by SmithL
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Hillary Rodham Clinton was winning robust support Tuesday in Ohio's Democratic presidential contest from groups that have been the foundation of her candidacy, taking strong margins among white, blue collar and older voters.
Early results from exit polls of the state's Democratic voters showed that Barack Obama was not doing as well as he had in recent contests in eroding her support from those groups.
The senator from Illinois was doing best among voters who have been with him from early on in this year's voting. He was getting backing from nine in 10 blacks, two thirds of voters who are under age 30, and just over half of college graduates.
But Clinton, the New York senator who saw her rival win 11 straight contests in the run-up to Tuesday, was showing renewed strength among groups she has relied on heavily. She was even eating into some groups that usually are behind Obama, evenly splitting independents and young white voters with him.
Preliminary data from interviews with Ohio Democratic voters showed she was getting the votes of two in three white women, a group that has generally supported her heavily but with whom she had slipped to thin margins recently in Virginia and Wisconsin.
She also had the backing of almost six in 10 white men, a group in which Obama had forged solid advantages in recent voting.
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heh heh heh
NEVER count the klintons out..ever..
Barack wins in:
1. States where the black population is a majority or near majority of Democratic voters.
2. Overwhelmingly white states where the black population is too small to create tensions.
In states where the black population is large enough to cause "tension" (especially with blue collar white voters), but not large enough to provide the margin of victory, Hillary wins. See New Jersey, Ohio and (likely) Pennsylvania.
Its like Im seeing two speeding trains heading toward eachother and being unable to stop it, yet still deriving enormous pleasure from it...
>> She was even eating into some groups
Don’t know exactly what group I’m in, but I know she eats into me like battery acid eats into a good pair of jeans.
I told friends the other day, Hillary will win Texas, Ohio and Rhode Island tonight, and then she and her minions will declare her to be the “Comeback Kid II.”
Rock solid analysis. Be careful not to get banned. :)
Your theory is right. The Hildebeast also wins in states normally carried by Democrats unless #1 applies (Maryland).
seems lots more women 59% than men 41% voted. Also young vote seems low at 16% (17-29yr old) old vote at 23% seems to favor Hillary as well. I think Ohio may be good to Hillary tonight. Obama’s NAFTA fiasco seems to have hurt him. The out of work factory workers didn’t like being lied to by the ‘Barrack Star’
They need a separate group category for Rushublicans.
Ouch!...Gonna be some whuppin’ on the plantation if she wins the whole thing.....
He better drive the stake home hard in Texas....We can deal with “Pocket Change” Obama later...Like he said.....He’s bone-headed...
Racists for Hillary!
Sexists for Obama!
Rational humans for anyone else!
Get yer hands OFF of me, Hillary.
I expect Hillary to win OH and perhaps TX.
It appears that she intends to stay in until PA at which point the situation may be different.
What sticks in my mind is the math behind the situation. She needs to win by large margins in the remaining states.
Yup. CNN’s talking heads will be beaming with pride and jumping for joy as they say that over and over and over. Even if it’s just by a few votes in TX we’ll hear about “The Comeback Kid” for weeks.
Neither one can win the nomination without huge support from super delegates. The proportional delegate system the Dems devised will prevent either from securing enough delegates. This is especially true since Michigan and Florida are out of the picture (for now anyways). The split in superdelegates will be such that if neither drops out, both will be unable to win enough delegates. The MSM talks about the delegate math for Hillary, but it ain’t all that much better for Obama, He will finish the primary season with more delegates than Hillary, but will still be far short of the amount needed to win.
My math figures that Florida 210 delegates and Michigan 156 delegates will not be seated. 2065 delegates are needed to win nomination and between them Mi and Fl represent 17.7% of the TOTAL needed to win. Split them in half for Hillary and Obama, and throw in 27 for Edwards and you have a situation where Hillary of Obama will need a big pickup in the last primaries to come close to winning enough delegates. Based on results thus far, ain’t gonna happen for either one.
What sticks in my mind is the math behind the situation. She needs to win by large margins in the remaining states.
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True — something most overlook. She MUST win by BIG margins for impact.
Why?
What about the Edwards delegates since they have not been released yet ?
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