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William F. Buckley’s ‘Conservative Movement’ Still-Born, Dead-On-Arrival, Because it Was Godless...
The American View ^ | 3/3/2008 | John Lofton ("recovering Republican, recovering conservative")

Posted on 03/03/2008 1:57:22 PM PST by Jim Robinson

William F. Buckley’s ‘Conservative Movement’ Still-Born, Dead-On-Arrival, Decades Ago, Because it Was Godless, Against Christ, Ignored God’s Word

Contact: John Lofton, 301-873-4612, 410-760-8885, JLof@aol.com

MEDIA ADVISORY, March 3 /Christian Newswire/ — Recovering Republican John Lofton, Editor of TheAmericanView.com and co-host of “The American View” radio show with the Constitution Party’s 2004 Presidential candidate Michael Anthony Peroutka, has issued the following statement:

“Except the LORD build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the LORD keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.” – Psalm 127.

The Lord Jesus Christ did not build the “conservative movement” house. Thus, it was a house built on sand, it fell and great has been the fall of it, a recent example of this fall being the “conservative movement’s” support for President of George W. Bush who has given us the most Godless, unconstitutional, debt-ridden, big spending Federal Government in our history.

Even though most of its “leaders” claimed to be Christians, the “conservative movement” was dead-on-arrival because, from the beginning, it’s political plan was Godless, against Christ, and ignored the Bible. This “movement” vainly imagined succeeding without honoring Christ, succeeding through bread-alone, flesh-and-blood-only-politics when God tells us the REAL battle is a spiritual war which must be fought in the full-armor of God (Ephesians 6:10ff).

An example of the Godlessness I allude to occurred when I was on Bill Buckley’s “Firing Line” program June 24, 1987. Referring to him having told Malcolm Muggeridge that he (Buckley) did not believe there was a Christian means of organizing society, I asked Bill: “Wouldn’t God’s Laws, wouldn’t the Laws of Christ be a means of organizing a society?” Buckley said: “No. No….The consent of the governed in societies ruled by the people is the ultimate source of authority.”

Alexander Solzhenitsyn was once asked how just a few Communists could take over his country when it had a thousand years of being Christian? He replied: “We forgot God.” The leaders of the “conservative movement,” politically-speaking, forgot God. They forgot that the Lord Jesus Christ is Lord over ALL, including politics. They forgot that He is King of kings, Lord of lords, with ALL power in Heaven and on earth. They forgot Psalm 2:12 commands: “Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.”

I know all of what I say here is true because, from the inside, I ran with this “conservative movement” from the mid-1960s to 1980 when God, by His grace alone, raptured me from among this Christless crowd – something for which, literally, I will be eternally grateful.

To hear much more on this subject, please click here to hear the latest “The American View” radio show http://www.theamericanview.com/dictator/media/997/show_145.mp3

If you’d like to interview John Lofton, you may reach him by calling: 301-873-4612; 410-760-8885; or by email: JLof@aol.com.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anticatholicism; buckley; conservatism; constitutionparty; johnlofton; wfb; williamfbuckley; williamfbuckleyjr
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To: aruanan

Someone upthread stated that Lofton is a Calvinist, and I took that as accurate without double-checking it.

Apparently, it is not true.


61 posted on 03/03/2008 2:39:54 PM PST by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: Binghamton_native

“Does this mean that Lofton would govern without the consent of the governed?”

In a Theocracy the power comes from God and the Ruler doesn’t need the consent of the governed. This is the basis for the Divine Right of Kings.


62 posted on 03/03/2008 2:40:46 PM PST by A Strict Constructionist (We have become an oligarchy not a Republic.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Oops. That should have read:

To be fair, the other extreme, where the common assumptions of Western Civilization are denied, which derive from Christianity, is equally nutty.

The founders had it right. They recognized that God, as our Creator, gives us rights, and set out to protect those rights, while protecting the right for each man to worship from the interference of the state.

63 posted on 03/03/2008 2:41:08 PM PST by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: Binghamton_native
One of the things that most affected me with regard to the state and its role is Luke 22 when the Lord told the apostles to sell their cloaks and buy swords. Now, it appears that didn't happen. What seems to have happened was that the apostles produced two swords on the spot -- hmmm it looks like some of them were packing -- and Jesus said that was enough.

And I take it to mean that the swords were there not to deliver Jesus from the cross but to make a point -- namely the futility of using force to bring about the Kingdom.

The crowd came, a sword was used by Peter to cut off one of their ears, then the Lord went willingly.

So true acceptance of the Lord can only be done in freedom.

Of course, I think it would be good if children in public schools heard a prayer read over the P.A. with the understanding they didn't have to join in. And I think it would be good for those children to be read to from the Bible, and we should post the 10 Commandments and the Golden Rule on the classroom walls, and there is nothing wrong with using those precepts to guide our laws --just consider that separation of church and state is a strong Christian value-- but forcing someone to believe in the Divine, or the supernatural is worse than pointless but counterproductive and unChristian as well.

I'm not sure if Mr. Lofton agrees.

64 posted on 03/03/2008 2:41:53 PM PST by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: tacticalogic

Politic’s does not “corrupt” religion. Both are corrupt because the hearts of men is corrupt.

We try to keep them separate not because one is more corrupt than the other. But because each becomes more powerful when entangled with the other, and the more powerful, the more corrupting. Religion can corrupt politics (witness the Middle East) just as well as politics can corrupt religion.


65 posted on 03/03/2008 2:42:52 PM PST by Truthsearcher
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To: jammer

following God’s Word does not include a loud Proclamation of doing so - whether personally or politically.


66 posted on 03/03/2008 2:42:56 PM PST by bioqubit
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Buckley demonstrated a preference for the Latin Mass. That makes him a pretty conservative Catholic.

As for "writing for Playboy," let's be clear: he wrote one or more articles that appeared in Playboy. So to have many other persons not particularly connected with porn.

67 posted on 03/03/2008 2:43:46 PM PST by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Whoops!

It makes more sense as “So too have many other...”


68 posted on 03/03/2008 2:45:12 PM PST by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: Tribune7

I think you’re right, and I think Mr. Lofton is not right.


69 posted on 03/03/2008 2:45:20 PM PST by Binghamton_native
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Agreed. I have no interest in living in a theocracy.

I don’t know much about the author’s religious background, and I do consider myself an evangelical Christian,but I do know I dated a girl from a southern pentecostal family a couple of years back, and her family intimated several times that my Lutheran background meant I was basically Godless.


70 posted on 03/03/2008 2:45:28 PM PST by SoDak (Anyone but Obama)
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To: Clemenza
Or England under Oliver’s Army.

Waaaaahhh - you left out Ireland.

71 posted on 03/03/2008 2:48:23 PM PST by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: Truthsearcher
We try to keep them separate not because one is more corrupt than the other. But because each becomes more powerful when entangled with the other, and the more powerful, the more corrupting. Religion can corrupt politics (witness the Middle East) just as well as politics can corrupt religion.

I'll argut that the degree of corruption you find within a given religion will be directly proportional to the extent that involves itself with politics. Islam defines itself as both political and religous, and is inherently corrupt. Contrast them with followers of religions that have no particular political aspirations, like the Buddhists of Tibet.

72 posted on 03/03/2008 2:52:06 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Binghamton_native

This evangelical Christian agrees.”
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As does this evangelical Christian.


73 posted on 03/03/2008 2:53:59 PM PST by cowdog77 (Circle the Wagons)
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To: Pyro7480

Quaker.


74 posted on 03/03/2008 2:55:36 PM PST by arthurus
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To: Binghamton_native
“Wouldn’t God’s Laws, wouldn’t the Laws of Christ be a means of organizing a society?”

Huh, I've never heard it phrased as "Laws of Christ" before.

I'm not sure how one would build an organized government upon the New Testament alone, and most of the Old Testament laws were particular to the situation of the Hebrews.

Piety is not a substitute for sound political philosophy, and vice-versa.

75 posted on 03/03/2008 2:55:46 PM PST by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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To: macamadamia

“I ran with this “conservative movement” from the mid-1960s to 1980”

Lofton ran with the movement as long as he was making a living in and off of it. He went from hard right evangelical (which certainly has its place, even if I disagree) to insane - and that was it for Lofton being a part of the movement he now calls “still-born.”


76 posted on 03/03/2008 2:57:25 PM PST by DangerDanger ("Libertarianism is the Heart and Soul of Conservatism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: bioqubit
following God’s Word does not include a loud Proclamation of doing so - whether personally or politically.

Okay, assuming that's true--and I agree--what's your point? I don't think I've ever maintained that it does.

77 posted on 03/03/2008 3:00:26 PM PST by jammer
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To: Petronski
Someone upthread stated that Lofton is a Calvinist, and I took that as accurate without double-checking it.

Apparently, it is not true.


Okay, non-Catholic?
78 posted on 03/03/2008 3:00:42 PM PST by aruanan
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To: A Strict Constructionist
We seem to have some people around that resemble Savonarola.

According to Lauro Martines' Fire in the City, Savonarola was actually a great patriot and a lover of liberty whose oft-necessary religious reforms have unjustly been depicted as theocratic.

After the Medici were expelled, he was pretty hands-off, preferring religious reform to the daily grind of politics. Even his famous Bonfires of the Vanities were voluntary.

79 posted on 03/03/2008 3:02:31 PM PST by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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To: Jim Robinson
I agree with those who view this as Catholic-bashing.

Buckley and many senior NR people were conservative Catholics, so the only way the movement was "Godless" is if you view Catholics as Godless.

One sure-fire way to make conservatism a minority movement for a generation would be to split conservative Protestants from conservative Catholics.

80 posted on 03/03/2008 3:03:02 PM PST by colorado tanker
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