Mormon, Catholic doctrines can collide (No coffee, tea in polling place?)

East Valley Tribune ^ | March 1, 2008 | Lawn Griffiths

[greyfoxx39]

Religious and cultural traditions collide in odd ways.

• Is it right to tell election poll workers, assigned to Mormon church meeting houses, to not bring coffee, sodas or anything else caffeinated to refresh themselves during their long day tending to voters?

-SNIP-

First, let’s look at the polling place duties and sipping Maxwell House in the meeting house.

Longtime Tempe poll worker Mary Ann Hemmingson has signed up to work the polls for the March 11 election. She’ll spend her 14- or 15-hour day in a church, but no longer one that belongs to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

“I never sign up to work at a Mormon church because the board workers there are not allowed to have any caffeine on the premises,” she said. “That means no coffee in the morning and no Diet Coke in the afternoon. ... You don’t want to see what I look like without my daily dose of caffeine. It’s not a pretty picture.”

“The Word of Wisdom” portion of the Doctrine and Covenants, put forth in 1833 by church founder and prophet Joseph Smith, says that “hot drinks are not for the body or belly.” Add to that what H. Burke Peterson, first counselor in the Presiding Bishopric, said in 1975: “We know that cola drinks contain the drug caffeine. We know caffeine is not wholesome nor prudent for the use of our bodies. It is only sound judgment to conclude that cola drinks and any others that contain caffeine or other harmful ingredients should not be used.”

Advising followers to restrict what they take into their bodies is one thing, but applying that mandate to those people who perform a public job inside their buildings in a one-day stint seems to be taking things too Far.

[SkyPilot]

It is the Salavtion of Jesus Christ .................

+ The Book of Mormom
+ Doctrine and Covenants
+ "all you can do"
+ Obedience
+ Developing Good "Moral Character"
+ Spreading Mormonism through missionary work
+ Tithing what the Mormon church says it wants
+ Being baptized into the Mormon church
+ Participating in Secret ceremonies
+ whatever else
+ this, that, and the other thing

Whew!

Are you really saved restornu?

"These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God."

1 John 5:13

[restornu]

God provides what one could not, not what one, would not!

A person is entitled to have faith after once he or she done all within ones power. ~ Brigham Young on Faith.

2 Nephi 25
23 For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do.

[SkyPilot]

A person is entitled to have faith after once he or she done all within ones power. ~ Brigham Young on Faith.

Resty, resty - have you not read this book completely through?

The Book of Romans

[restornu]

It seems you do not understand Abraham who was obedient to the Lord when he did take his Son Isaac to be sacrificed.

This is called works, also Abraham’s faith was tested

Than the prophecy of Heavenly Father provided His Son for the redemption of mankind!

The Lord’s covenants did not changed

The reason you have 30k plus churches and doctrines is because the Bible is subject to every whim that comes down the pike

The Book of Mormon is consistent there is no equivocation or left up to man’s life style or comfort zone of obedient.

It is written in the Bible for those who want to take responsibility to endure to the end!

Matt. 24:
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Mark 13:
13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

James 5:
11 Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.

1 Ne. 22:
31 Wherefore, ye need not suppose that I and my father are the only ones that have testified, and also taught them. Wherefore, if ye shall be obedient to the commandments, and endure to the end, ye shall be saved at the last day. And thus it is. Amen

D&C 14:
7 And, if you keep my commandments and endure to the end you shall have eternal life, which gift is the greatest of all the gifts of God.

3 Ne. 15:
9 Behold, I am the law, and the light. Look unto me, and endure to the end, and ye shall live; for unto him that endureth to the end will I give eternal life.

The Bible wording leaves room for many to debate on the meaning the word of the Lord, in the Book of Mormon leaves no doubt of what man should do.

Your reward is what you are willing to put into it!

You want last place on the Salvation express that is what you will receive!

God provides what one could not, not what one would not!

A person is entitled to have faith after once he or she done all within ones power. ~ Brigham Young on Faith.

The Lord did not give man Commandment’s for amusement or the ability to choose to exercise just for the heck of it!

[Elsie]

I’m left-handed...

That is SO sinister!

[Elsie]

I really am surprised that the Inmans are letting the sevenbok get away with...

Huh?

[Elsie]

It’s like talking to a stump.

[Elsie]

My eyes... my EYES!!!

[Elsie]

Letgo back to the topic of this Thread!

OK... do YOU keep the Word of Wisdom?

[Elsie]

Let’ stay focused on one topic at a time.

Ok then... do YOU keep the Word of Wisdom?

[Elsie]

+ this, that, and the other thing = ...and so forth. in the AoF - #6 & #7

[Elsie]

A person is entitled to have faith after once he or she done all within ones power.
~ Brigham Young on Faith.

A person is entitled to have faith after once he or she done all within ones power. ~ Brigham Young on Faith.

How does a person KNOW that they have done "every thing in their power"?

[Elsie]

This is called works, also Abraham’s faith was tested

You, who chide others to 'stay on topic', do YOU "stay on topic"?

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 Romans 2:17-21
 17.  Now you, if you call yourself a Jew; if you rely on the law and brag about your relationship to God;
 18.  if you know his will and approve of what is superior because you are instructed by the law;
 19.  if you are convinced that you are a guide for the blind, a light for those who are in the dark,
 20.  an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of infants, because you have in the law the embodiment of knowledge and truth--
 21.  you, then, who teach others, do you not teach yourself? You who preach against stealing, do you steal?

[Elsie]

 

The reason you have 30k plus churches and doctrines is because the Bible is subject to every whim that comes down the pike

 

The reason you have so many MORMON Organizations  is because the Bible is subject to every spin that comes down the pike,

along with disagreements about all the other 'scriptures' that the faithful are SUPPOSED to BELIEVE in: BoM, D&C's, PGP, BoA... ad nauseum.

 

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"We do not indorse the teachings of any so-called Mormons or Latter Day Saints, which are in conflict with the gospel of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, as taught in the New Testament and the Book of Mormon. They have departed in a great measure from the faith of the Church of Christ as it was first established, by heeding revelations given through Joseph Smith, who, after being called of God to translate his sacred word--the Book of Mormon--drifted into many errors and gave many revelations to introduce doctrines, ordinances and offices in the church, which are in conflict with Christ's teachings."

-- David Whitmer (an elder in the Church of Christ), 1887

 

Today, there are as many as 100 organizations claiming to be a part of the Latter Day Saint movement, most centered in Utah or Missouri. Most regard their own group, however small, to be the only legitimate Christian church. Most of these organizations are very small, but overall, but the second largest denomination, the Community of Christ, reports over 200,000 members.

Just a sampling...........

• The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (a.k.a. The Church of Jesus Christ, and the LDS) is by far the largest Mormon denomination. It is a continuation of the "Rocky Mountain Saint" branch of Mormonism.
• The more liberal Community of Christ (formerly called the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) is second in size. It is a continuation of the "Prairie Saint" movement. Although generally referred to as "Mormons," they do not use the term themselves, because of its association with polygamy and because they believe the name was not part of the original church.
• Many additional small Mormon faith groups, including:
  • Aaronic Order: unknown membership; 6 centers; 20 ministers
  • Apostolic United Brethren: about 7,000 members. They disagree with the LDS' decision to allow ordination of African-Americans and allowing women to assume leadership positions.
  • Church of Christ (Fetting/Bronson): about 2000 members
  • Church of Christ (Temple Lot): about 2400 members
  • The Church of Christ "With The Elijah Message," established anew in 1929 12,500 members worldwide
  • Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite): about 2700 members
  • The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: about 11 million members
  • The Community of Christ: about 250,000 members. This denomination was formerly known as the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints -- the "RLDS Church". It was formed in 1860 by remnants of the original church who did not make the trek to Utah. They reject certain beliefs and practices of the LDS church, including marriage sealing for eternity; they allow both men and women into the priesthood; their services are open to the public. They have about 250,000 members.
  • United Order Effort: a polygamy practicing group, excommunicated by the main LDS church,  of perhaps 10,000 members
  • The Restoration Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. It split from the Reorganized Church in 1991 because of the latter's liberal theology. It is centered in Independence, Missouri, and had an estimated membership of 2,500 in mid-1996. They publish a periodical "The Restoration Advocate" six times a year.

[Elsie]

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[restornu]

These groups mean nothing just like in the days of Jesus the apostles who also had other gropus who tried to claim authority!

[SkyPilot]

It seems you do not understand Abraham who was obedient to the Lord when he did take his Son Isaac to be sacrificed.

It seems you won't answer my question. Have you not read the entire Book of Romans?

[restornu]

That whole audio is a fake that is not the decorum of what a worthy LDS because that would be misuse of the Lord’s priesthood.

Also if one is a non member or x member there would be no need to even use such talk.

An Imposter would do that out of ignorance.

[restornu]

of course I have read the Bible you think you are the only one who read it!

[Elsie]

These groups mean nothing just like in the days of Jesus the apostles who also had other gropus who tried to claim authority!

And a mere wave of the hand, the Queen dismisses those who displease her.