Mormon, Catholic doctrines can collide (No coffee, tea in polling place?)

East Valley Tribune ^ | March 1, 2008 | Lawn Griffiths

[greyfoxx39]

Religious and cultural traditions collide in odd ways.

• Is it right to tell election poll workers, assigned to Mormon church meeting houses, to not bring coffee, sodas or anything else caffeinated to refresh themselves during their long day tending to voters?

-SNIP-

First, let’s look at the polling place duties and sipping Maxwell House in the meeting house.

Longtime Tempe poll worker Mary Ann Hemmingson has signed up to work the polls for the March 11 election. She’ll spend her 14- or 15-hour day in a church, but no longer one that belongs to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

“I never sign up to work at a Mormon church because the board workers there are not allowed to have any caffeine on the premises,” she said. “That means no coffee in the morning and no Diet Coke in the afternoon. ... You don’t want to see what I look like without my daily dose of caffeine. It’s not a pretty picture.”

“The Word of Wisdom” portion of the Doctrine and Covenants, put forth in 1833 by church founder and prophet Joseph Smith, says that “hot drinks are not for the body or belly.” Add to that what H. Burke Peterson, first counselor in the Presiding Bishopric, said in 1975: “We know that cola drinks contain the drug caffeine. We know caffeine is not wholesome nor prudent for the use of our bodies. It is only sound judgment to conclude that cola drinks and any others that contain caffeine or other harmful ingredients should not be used.”

Advising followers to restrict what they take into their bodies is one thing, but applying that mandate to those people who perform a public job inside their buildings in a one-day stint seems to be taking things too Far.

[Tennessee Nana]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I’m busy drinking coffee...

:)

[Tennessee Nana]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I’m left-handed...

:)

[AppyPappy]

You are SO going to burn in Hell

[Tennessee Nana]

I’ll offer a cup of coffee to Joseph Smith while I’m there

He’ll be glad of a cup...

No water in Hell..

:)

[Rameumptom]

>>So am I to assume you wouldn't have a problem with two STRAIGHT poll workers haveing a makeout session in a Mormon host church?

You know what they say about "ass-u-me". You haven't followed the dailogue. I would have a problem with it. It is greyfoxx39 who is arguing that anything an American can do that is legal can be done in a church or the church should be excluded from the Democratic process. I have already pointed out how this line of reasoning has been used by those who advicate seperation of Church and State to disenfranchise the Catholic church from legal adoptions.

[Rameumptom]

>>>Those events took place in a different country,

Last I checked the "Massachussets" that Ann Hutchinson was banished from for her "cult" and "heretic" beliefs is still in America. Roegr Williams did leave England but was also exiled from Salem

From Wiki... Roger Williams

....he became acting pastor and entered almost immediately into controversies with the Massachusetts authorities that in a few months resulted in his exile by law from Salem after being brought before the Salem Court for spreading "diverse, new, and dangerous opinions" that questioned the Church. The law exiling Williams was not repealed until 1936 when Bill 488 was passed by the Massachusetts House.

The law was not repealed until 1936. I find it intersting that I am accussed of Mormon "bias". Yet I have provided Catholic, Evangelical, and Baptist examples both historical and modern of State disenfranchisement of Churches as well as the Mormon example.

....the first Baptist church in the Americas was founded by my ancestor and Roger Williams

An honorable lineage, IMO. Too bad that in the opinion of others he was a "cultist" who got booted out of Massachussets.

[greyfoxx39]

It is greyfoxx39 who is arguing that anything an American can do that is legal can be done in a church or the church should be excluded from the Democratic process. I have already pointed out how this line of reasoning has been used by those who advicate seperation of Church and State to disenfranchise the Catholic church from legal adoptions.

I'm STILL waiting for a link to the constitutional article that illustrates a church's role in the democratic process, namely elections...and the article that "enfranchises" churches. I'll settle for a link to the law that "enfranchised" the catholic church in the adoption procedure.

Most particularly, I'd like to see a link to a civil law that governs the prohibition of coffee in a church.

It is greyfoxx39 who is arguing that anything an American can do that is legal can be done in a church or the church should be excluded from the Democratic process

LOL!!!

[MHGinTN]

I really am surprised that the Inmans are letting the sevenbok get away with defending the peepstone divination false prophet’s adultery with other men’s wives by his citing the consorts of Abraham, et al. But I’ll just get more popcorn and see what ‘evolves’.

[colorcountry]

We’ve been down this road so many times with Abraham and his supposed God-given polygamy.

It’s like talking to a stump.

[MHGinTN]

Rotten one at that! ... Course, my grandpa used to say water from a rotting stump would cure warts.

[Godzilla]

I really am surprised that the Inmans are letting the sevenbok get away with defending the peepstone divination false prophet’s adultery with other men’s wives by his citing the consorts of Abraham, et al.

Well, I'm still waiting for 7 to reply to the revelation of one J. Smith which said 'thou shalt not' that I posted. Fooey on Abraham, that is not pertinent to Smitty because bom and D&C were the restored gospel for him.

[pby]

It COULD be a really BIG square!

Would it not have to be?

[pby]

One topic at a time!

Yes, I agree...lets go back to a topic that has not yet been answered:

How does a non-Mormon obtain salvation and how do they receive the atonement of Jesus Christ?

What happens to a non-Mormon who rejects Jesus Christ and His atonement?

[Godzilla]

Problem solved, they 've installed these at the ward

[ansel12]

“Last I checked the “Massachussets” that Ann Hutchinson was banished from for her “cult” and “heretic” beliefs is still in America. Roegr Williams did leave England but was also exiled from Salem “

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Last I checked the United States of Americas was about 150 years in the future from those British events.

[SkyPilot]

How does a non-Mormon obtain salvation and how do they receive the atonement of Jesus Christ?

They are ashamed of the answer. That is something you must learn.

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MORMON SALVATION

[restornu]

One topic at a time!
Yes, I agree...lets go back to a topic that has not yet been answered:

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Letgo back to the topic of this Thread!

“Mormon, Catholic doctrines can collide (No coffee, tea in polling place?”

[restornu]

There is no such thing as Mormon Salvation Mormon could not even save himself, let alone others!

It is the Salavtion of Jesus Christ.

[Tennessee Nana]

There is no such thing as Mormon Salvation Mormon could not even save himself, let alone others!

It is the Salavtion of Jesus Christ.
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And how does that happen ???

[restornu]

There is no such thing as Mormon Salvation Mormon could not even save himself, let alone others!

It is the Salavtion of Jesus Christ.
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And how does that happen ???

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My reply was a correction of a misconption nothing more.

Let’ stay focused on one topic at a time.

It is your thread on this topic “Mormon, Catholic doctrines can collide (No coffee, tea in polling place?”

Salvation is another thread topic.

To unleash multi topics defeat understanding and only causes confusion.