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Horrifically Scary Landing in High Winds (almost landing that is)
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Posted on 03/03/2008 8:50:58 AM PST by Scythian

These people are lucky to be alive !!!!!

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TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: landing; plane; winds
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To: gorush

LOL!!!!


61 posted on 03/03/2008 9:52:35 AM PST by moehoward
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To: Creeping Incrementalism

Concur. However, with the 7700 Squawk comes mounds of paperwork. The radome on our Prowler imploded and we squawked emergency to land back at Bangor NAS. We had lots of paper to fill out...


62 posted on 03/03/2008 9:52:48 AM PST by rjsimmon
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To: Scythian

Idiot pilot

If you are not in a stable aproach at 500 AGL, go around!
If you are not lined up coming over the fence, go around!
If you are not ready to flare a max of 500 feet past the numbers, go around!

Nobody ever made the evening news with a go around. Lots of dead pilots did when they dodn’t go around.

The left wing scrape almost got him.


63 posted on 03/03/2008 9:53:39 AM PST by MindBender26 (Ugliness can be cured by a light switch.)
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To: patton

Ditto the furrows


64 posted on 03/03/2008 9:54:14 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: patton; Scythian
Ted Fujita, for whom the Fujita scale of measuring the destruction levels of tornadoes, was the one who first brought up the idea of micro bursts being the natural mechanism by which some planes can be brought down, even in times of moderate winds. No one believed him, at first, but he proved it.

I was telling one of my older brothers about this. Gerry used to be a pilot, and he recounted having been through one when he was flying for a commercial airline. Thankfully, they were not near the ground at the time, but he said that he was flying along, and suddenly the plane just dropped about 600 feet. They were trying everything to get the plane back up, with no success, then suddenly he said it was like you were in an elevator going right up again. He's thankful that never happened to him on takeoff or landing.

65 posted on 03/03/2008 9:54:24 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: Scythian

ILS landings are for wussies!


66 posted on 03/03/2008 9:55:07 AM PST by Niteranger68 (Where are they hiding Obama’s white half?)
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To: patton

As to friction on asphalt vs grass, not sure, but I think the prop is the issue.


67 posted on 03/03/2008 9:55:45 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: Scythian

>>>> You guys don’t understand, it’s not up to the pilot, the tower makes the call, this pilot does deserve a medal. I had a landing like this once (we landed) and people on the plane were crying, it’s very scary but in the end the tower makes the call, and they often make very bad calls.

NO TOWER ever makes “the call.” It is 100% up to the PIC 100% of the time.


68 posted on 03/03/2008 9:56:26 AM PST by MindBender26 (Ugliness can be cured by a light switch.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

I am a retired air traffic controller. Controllers do not make the decision as to whether or not an aircraft can fly an approach or land the aircraft. That is for the pilot to decide, the controller doesn’t fly the aircraft. The controller’s responsibility is to make sure the pilot knows the weather, wind, runway condition, etc. Then issue the clearance.


69 posted on 03/03/2008 9:56:35 AM PST by ops33
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To: MindBender26

Yep.


70 posted on 03/03/2008 9:56:47 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: Scythian

This is the EXACT reason I oppose the Chicago O’Hare reconfiguration to all East-West runways. The current layout allows landing into the wind instead of crosswind.

As King Richie II completes this madness, we will see a lot of approaches like this in Chicago . . .


71 posted on 03/03/2008 9:57:24 AM PST by Petruchio (Democrats are like Slinkies... Not good for anything, but it's fun to push them down the stairs.)
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To: Scythian

Lordy, what a scary sight! I reckon that pilot asked for a landing somewhere else with lighter crosswinds.


72 posted on 03/03/2008 9:58:27 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Ok, I will adjust my thinking - a prop stike on concrete will bust it off, on dirt, it might dig in, and cause a ground loop.

Either way, you are bying a new engine/prop/belly, but with the ground loop, you might not walk away.


73 posted on 03/03/2008 10:00:14 AM PST by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: patton

>>>>So, why not do the belly landing on the grass NEXT to the runway?

On grass, you can “catch” something and flip. Bad Form. On concrete, you slide, and slide, and slide.


74 posted on 03/03/2008 10:00:18 AM PST by MindBender26 (Ugliness can be cured by a light switch.)
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To: patton
"This is N106DF right after her first flight. That is the taxiway. The runway is in the background. At this angle the left sponson is blocking the N Number."

Airplane

75 posted on 03/03/2008 10:04:08 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: chimera

It’s not exactly the same thing, but I’m reminded of that American MD-82 that crashed in Little Rock, AR a while back (AAL1420, I think). Bad judgement by the pilot attempting to land in a thunderstorm with the winds going 30 knots gusting to 45 and poor visibility, and he couldn’t keep it on the runway when he finally wrestled it on the ground.

I don’t know what the maximum allowable crosswind is on an A320, but he had to be close to it even before the gust. You could tell by the grass and the sound on the video that the wind was really howling.

It’s easy for us here to sit back and say “oh, he shouldn’t have landed, he should’ve diverted”, but think about the situation he’s in. If the tower tells him the wind, and they’re manageable for the aircraft (supposedly), is he going to risk his career diverting the aircraft from Hamburg to an alternate, disrupt 130+ passengers’ itineraries and Lufthansa’s schedules, and in general stick his neck out? Maybe he should’ve, but that’s an awful lot of pressure to buck, especially when everybody else has been getting into Hamburg on that runway just fine before him.

}:-)4


76 posted on 03/03/2008 10:04:23 AM PST by Moose4 (Hey GOP...don't move toward the middle. Move the middle toward us.)
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To: MindBender26; Conspiracy Guy

“Bad form”? LOL. we where just discussing that - CG thinks the odds of a ground loop on grass are higher.

I agree, after thinking about it.


77 posted on 03/03/2008 10:04:29 AM PST by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: patton

The runway is also flatter and smoother than the grass which can be an unknown.


78 posted on 03/03/2008 10:05:50 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Pretty - it must have killed you to sell it.


79 posted on 03/03/2008 10:06:51 AM PST by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: MindBender26

yep


80 posted on 03/03/2008 10:06:52 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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