Posted on 03/03/2008 8:50:58 AM PST by Scythian
These people are lucky to be alive !!!!!
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He was too far upwind. He realized that. Then he turned left to regain the centerline,(dumb move, should have initiated go around then). Wind got under his upwind wing and almost put the downwind wingtip into the ground then he overcorrected to the right and the wind pushed down on his upwind wing almost striking the ground with the upwind wingtip. He’s rear stall and mushed his way back into the air only because there was enough power to be added.
I hate to be an armchair quarterback but pilot error almost ended some lives.
I can't imagine a pilot not having the final say about his craft's safety, as you suggest.
I was in a bad one coming into Denver in late fall with the winds howling down the mountains. The aircraft bounced a couple of times and tipped to the side on one of the bounces. I think the wind gusted or maybe bunched up under the wing. No contact, but you could feel the roll to the side. Turned a few hairs white.
Agreed.
My girlfriend hates flying into Metro just because I pick her up and get on the highway at Middlebelt road. She flies a lot but says she doesn’t need reminders of all the lives lost there.
This morning on FNC, they ran a clip of a wheels up landing of a Cherokee.
The pilot did a great job, circled to burn fuel, cut the engine before flare, and dlid to a stop right on the centerline.
Honest question - any way you add it up, his repair bill is going to be $50k, starting with a prop and engine.
So, why not do the belling landing on the grass NEXT to the runway?
(Note - I have never landed without the gear fixed and welded.)
bflv
Your screenname says you have credibility on this :).
Anyways came in late but like everyone else said ATC gives permission to land only, they can’t tell a pilot they have to land. Actual landing decision is up the pilot.
Wind readings, for the most part, are taken 10ft off the ground...the height of the old cockpits.
Does anybody know if there are readings from higher airport locations?
Structures upwind of the runway can cause strange rotors, especially in gusty conditions. I have two high-wind parachute jumps which were scary as hell. As I approached the ground the winds kept changing in speed, direction and character. Between my surfing the turbulence and the directional changes, I was toggling all the way into my bounce. No fun; but good beer stories afterwards.
Eas the pilot a Nazi?....Vee are going to land vegardless of you all crying swinehunds!
You're the first one who gets it. The pilot isn't a hero. He's an idiot. I heard about this on the radio and they made it seem like a windshear thing where the pilot had no warning. His 20-30 degree sideslip angle on approach demonstrates that he knew about the wind. I wonder what he thought would happen when he touched down. (Yes, I know about kicking the rudder. Maybe this works for big planes too, but there are limits and this guy was way past it.)
ML/NJ
ping to Papa!
Nein! In Deutschland, Air Traffik Kontrol kommand, and zee pilot obey!!!
When I went to ground school for my isntrument rating, the class joke was that whenever we were asked a question about what to do in a certain situation but we didn’t know the answer, everyone would shout “7700”!, the transponder code for emergency, because when a pilot declares an emergency, he can break whatever rules he feels necessary.
I met a German chick there who had interviewed for Lufthansa but was rejected. I never flew with her, but she had more hours in gliders alone by age 19 than most of the twenty-something instructors had in total. She told me Lufthansa prefers to hire pilots with no expereince whatsoever, because it is easier to train them their own way.
After about six months of flying the amphib, be destroyed it in a wheels down water landing. He and his passenger were uninjured and swam to shore. The plane’s heaviest damage came during the recovery of the upside down plane by some nut with a barge and a crane who lifted the plane full of water straight up. Pile of parts.
Pilot should have gone around 20 seconds before he did!
I don’t.
—”But the gusts almost killed them all.”—
Roger that. Looked to be doable until they were fairly committed to set down.
Ouch, on your aircraft - hard to see so much of your life trashed.
On the noseover - is the kinetic friction of aluminum on concrete (or asphalt) lower than that of AL on grass? I don’t know. Of course, one ditch, and you WILL noseover.
Always land WITH the furrows...
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