Posted on 03/03/2008 8:50:58 AM PST by Scythian
These people are lucky to be alive !!!!!
Video
An earlier post said he circled and landed safely on same runway. So much for your limits.
I can easily imagine the Captain telling the FO "well, nice try, but I think I'll try the next one." It is SOP for Capt & FO to act as "pilot flying" on every other leg.
This seems to be a day for the clueless on FR.
I'm guessing that you do not have a pilot's license.
Pilot's routinely "go around." The reason they do this is that they hope that the conditions will not be as bad three to five minutes later, else they wouldn't do it. My own thinking when coming into an airport with sustained high winds was always, "Is there an alternate where the winds line up more directly with runway?"
ML/NJ
I perfectly refuted your characterisation of the pilot as "an idiot", and postulated on a feasible explanation, to boot.
Clueless, indeed.
35 years as ATC, 13 of them in Chicago, gave me a clue or two.
“bump the prop” - great idea.
Has it ever worked?
One prop strike, you buy a new engine, no matter how nice it runs.
Assumes 2-blade prop - can’t be done with three.
It was almost twenty years ago, for me, and to this day I wonder if I kept MY eyes open for mine. I remember the chirp of the upwind gear and the stall warning..then a blank..Then the plane straight, rolling to a stop. The Reptilian hindbrain must have taken over. I liked landings, Till then. The PA-38-112 hates XWinds. The Weather was going downhill, though and there were no good choices- with the front coming through the ride felt the way a moth does when it blunders into a window fan.
I get in a zone too. Still do.
I do hear and see critical things but not the clutter.
I have been told that that is the ideal state of mine.
Even with the prop out of the picture. The grass can be full of uneven surfaces. I’ll take the concrete,
I have been holding out for my company to start paying for it but they are slow in getting around to that :P Might have to break down and pay for it myself.
I don’t know of many companies that pay for basic flying lessons : )
I’ll send my resume.
In case you didn't glean this o' dear ol' government employee, being an ATC has nothing to do with flying an air plane. I fondly remember being cleared to land at the end of an ifr flight into Worcester on runway 11 when the vfr traffic was using 31. We're the ones whose lives are on the line. My instrument instructor was ATC at NY Center, and he took me to watch, so I'm sort of immune to the standard BS where they show a radar scope on the news with every plane in the air between Boston and Washington, DC on it. At NY Ctr, at least, no more than a third of the people there are working at any time. (and half of those are gofers.) The rest are playing chess or bridge, watching TV, etc.
ML/NJ
’ but in the end the tower makes the call’
No.
Just think, if they fired them all, there'd never be another aviation accident.
'Cuz the pilots don't screw up, right?
Guess you weren't paying attention. Go back and read my first post on this thread.
ML/NJ
It was like you or I trying to land a glider with a 40 MPH cross wind.
Yeah he does. Which type of metal do you suggest?
Regards
Can you make it out? I found a German blog with this comment:
die beiden hamburger jungs sind schon oldschool: “das ging beinah in die hoeseh!” “joa” ..etc. sehr gut!
... and I can make that out near the beginning of the background speech on the video, but there are several more sentences of which I have no idea. Don't know what "hoeseh" is; something bad, presumably. "That went nearly in the ____ " Toilet, maybe? Also, not sure if this comment is joking about the "oldschool" or not.
Also note a comment near the end where a guy says this was nothing so scary. Must be a slow news day, he says.
BUMP!
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