Posted on 02/29/2008 7:10:19 PM PST by Plane_Guy
Q Can I ask one quick clarification, Ms. Payton? I just want to be sure that I understood this correctly. It's fair to say that the possibility of this creating jobs in the United States was not a factor in your selection process; correct?
MS. PAYTON: That's correct.
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You don’t really have to worry about taxes if you are unemployed.
Yeah, I saw Jeff Sessions on Lou Dobbs last night discussing this-Oddly enough I didn’t see a single Democrat anywhere supporting this. McCain is so going to lose.
Alabama will assemble and modify some of the planes-not all. There will not be that many jobs created in my opinion. The labor intensive parts will be manufactured in Europe or China.
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You do realize that Northrop (that's with an "o")Grumman is an Amercian Company, right?
Thread or article?
Threads here at FR indicate this will hurt us (GOP).
You continue to spread false information.
Thanks for the info on the cost difference and specs. I will look into that more closely.
Unless the difference is that Airbus is superior altogether?
Sure is. But the company making the plane is called Airbus, which is part of EADS. The "E" in EADS stands for European.
If Jack Northrop were still running the show, he'd have built his own damn airframe and competing, instead of fronting for Airbus/EADS.
The next thing you know, Electric Boat will start fronting for Russia, in sub contracts for the Navy.
But where is the airframe being built?
“I agree and if they can enrage congress in the process that’s a bonus. The question IMO is why aren’t we building the best anymore?”
Boeing was too scrooge-like. They have a empty 767 production line that is already payed off. So keepeing it on production is high income for low cost. They decided not to go for a 777 based approach which i*’m sure would have won (Not because it’s better, but because it’s Boeing). The 777 production line is quite bussy so a 777 based tanker would result in delays either of comercial customers or the military maybe both.
Why nobody screams that Boeing is building large parts of the F-35 JSF in europe ? Wings are built in Italy. large parts of the fuselage and interior are built in the U.K. ?
The Northrop-Grumman Tankers seems to be the best choice when it comes to a decission between KC-767 and the A-330 MRTT.
So why not ?
I have yet to see you offer anything on this or the other threads where you have bashed the new tanker program that could be considered a coherent thought.
With EXCEPTION to the first 4 airframes, the remainder of the aircraft will be built here in the U.S.
The wings are going to be built in Tennessee
“Boeing came in with a lower bid...”
For an older aircraft with shorter range, and a smaller payload capacity of fuel, cargo pallets, troops, and litters.
Boeing also can’t deliver the 8 KC767’s it sold on time either. So if they can’t handle a timely delivery of 8 tankers what makes you think they’re going to be on time delivering 178 tankers?
“Alabama will assemble and modify some of the planes-not all. There will not be that many jobs created in my opinion. The labor intensive parts will be manufactured in Europe or China.”
Care to cite your sources?
Sure-see below
‘Large sections of the Northrop/EADS tanker will be built in Europe; they will be shipped across the Atlantic for assembly at a new widebody-jet plant to be built in Mobile, Ala., which will gain some 1,500 direct jobs.
At the Pentagon news conference, Air Force acquisitions chief Sue Payton said categorically that the creation of jobs in the United States was not a factor in the decision.
Payton said the only considerations were “the requirements of the war fighter” balanced with “the best interests of the taxpayer.”
Look I keep hearing every time some contract is awarded to a foreign competitor that it’s because the American company is crap. I don’t believe it. Boeing came in at a lower bid, and the plane Airbus will build is not even been tested. It is a derivative of another model. The GOP lined their pockets in my opinion. It was stupid to do this in an election year and probably guarantees McCain’s loss-he will lose Ohio.
We are in a recession. Those jobs would have been very important in this situation. There is also a national security issue here. America needs to build their own military products from start to finish. By driving out manufacturing with stupid decisions like this one, our government make us less safe ie less able to defend itself.
See my post. The only thing America will do is assemble and modify in Alabama. What a great deal. A contract worth billions and our government get 1500 dinky jobs...and loses thousands of Boeing jobs.
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