Posted on 02/29/2008 7:10:19 PM PST by Plane_Guy
Q Can I ask one quick clarification, Ms. Payton? I just want to be sure that I understood this correctly. It's fair to say that the possibility of this creating jobs in the United States was not a factor in your selection process; correct?
MS. PAYTON: That's correct.
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Well, the military isn’t a jobs program. Money spent is meant to kill people and break things.
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Agreed. Let’s build the best things for our military regardless of jobs. In the long run a strong military is better for jobs than the contract. Plus, jobs will be created in Mobile.
No matter what. Obama would hammer that those jobs should have been done in America.
I think that is intuitively obvious to the casual observer.
The question is WHY???
Why does our own government make deals like this without considering the well being of the citizens?
This is the crux of the problem - the reason the populace is getting more and more upset.
The open borders.
The willingness to let illegals take jobs away from Americans.
The willingness to let employers of illegals break the laws.
The trade deals that send jobs overseas.
The $30 billion dollar handouts while the people footing the bills are struggling to stay afloat.
It is the ongoing governmental arrogance - the total disregard for taxpayying citizens that is the problem.
Reductio ad absurdum?
Capitalism. Pure and simple. The best product at the best price wins. This should make American companies rethink their strategy, lose the unions and get domestic suppliers. When they do, they’ll win the contracts. What no one is looking at is how a foreign company can procure, assemble and deliver these products to the US cheaper than we could do it here at home where transportation costs would be mitigated. That should be a real story, but alas no one wants to talk about the unions and the leeching they do. IMO
Funny you should say that. If WalMart was put in charge of Boeing it would sure has heck drive costs down. Say what you want about WalMart but they know how to keep costs low.
Perhaps one reason why young people decide not to go into a challenging career like engineering is because they see a pattern of job loss. Why do the work if the field seems risky?
‘as’=’ask’
Hey... simply put, the Air Force believed that Northrup Grumman produced a better plane than Boeing did. If the American company can’t make a plane that the Air Force deems to be superior to the foreign company, so be it.
Our military should get the finest military equipment possible.
Second, the Boeing Plane sucked. The Northrup plane holds 3 times as much fuel and has the capability to fuel planes using two different methods.
How about you folks doing a little research before you knee-jerk again!! Sheesh!!
I may be missing something here, but I think this involves a major new project going up in Mobile Alabama, so it is creating some American jobs. Whether it will be equal to Boeing I have no idea, but this contract is another huge boom to the Mobile area. It is on fire business wise. Forbes ranked it the number one medium sized city in the country and speculates it will grow by 35% in just a few years.
I agree and if they can enrage congress in the process that’s a bonus. The question IMO is why aren’t we building the best anymore?
I agree and if they can enrage congress in the process that’s a bonus. The question IMO is why aren’t we building the best anymore?
“$40B of our tax dollars spent without consideration of American Jobs? What is this country coming to?”
Uh, the engines are made here in the U.S.
The refueling equipment is made here in the U.S.
The avionics are made here in the U.S.
And final assembly and intergration will be done here in the U.S.
Overall the A330 program has a much bigger economic footprint than Boeing’s proposal.
In Alabama alone where final assembly is done it will create 5000 new jobs and will have a $1 billion+ dollar impact anually
Georga is getting 4500 new jobs with $440 million anually
Arizona around 1100 new jobs
California 4700 new jobs
Florida 2000 new jobs
Illinois 2800 new jobs with close to $2 billion anually
2300 jobs in Ohio
1100 jobs in North Carolina
3800 jobs in Tennessee
4800 jobs in Texas
5500 jobs in Louisiana with $500+ million anually
The list goes on and on since it benefits 230 companies in 49 states
Boeing on the otherhand shot itself in the foot when it tried to bribe it’s way into getting the contract by offering jobs to those Airforce officers who oversee the program. Case in point Darleen Druyun who was negotiating a job with Boeing at the same time she was involved in contracts with the company.
The 767 is a old airframe design that has a shorter range and payload capability than the A330.
Boeing is also behind schedule on it’s KC767 deliveries to Italy and Japan.
The KC767 did not have multipoint refueling either
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