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When is this nonsense going to end in Washington?
1 posted on 02/28/2008 7:51:24 AM PST by rb22982
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Someone famous — I can’t remember who — was asked why economics was called “the dismal science.” His reply: “Because nobody listens.”


2 posted on 02/28/2008 7:54:01 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really needed?)
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The ethanol boom was a stupid move.
The ethanol bust was inevitable.

How much wheat production will we fall short this year due to farmers electing to plant corn instead?


3 posted on 02/28/2008 7:54:25 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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4 posted on 02/28/2008 7:54:51 AM PST by xcamel (Two-hand-voting now in play - One on lever, other holding nose.)
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To: rb22982
When is this nonsense going to end in Washington?

When the idiots are voted out, i.e. never.

5 posted on 02/28/2008 7:55:32 AM PST by Prokopton
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Heard Brit Hume explain yesterday that you can’t put out an ethanol fire the same way you put out a gasoline fire. More expense and training for fire departments. Aren’t we lucky to have liberals telling us what to do?


6 posted on 02/28/2008 7:55:39 AM PST by ladtx ( "Never miss a good chance to shut up." - - Will Rogers)
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SOMEBODY SHOULD TELL THIS JACKASS GOVERNOR IN MINNESOTA:

Pawlenty pumps ethanol
by Laura McCallum, Minnesota Public Radio
September 26, 2005

Governor Tim Pawlenty addresses the Governors’ Ethanol Coalition in St Paul. (MPR photo/Laura McCallum)
Governor Pawlenty is challenging other states to boost their ethanol consumption. He told a meeting of the Governors’ Ethanol Coalition that the corn-based fuel will reduce the nation’s dependence on foreign oil. The group consists of 31 states and five countries that support ethanol. But unlike Minnesota, few of them mandate ethanol use.

St. Paul, Minn. — Minnesota was the first state to require that all gasoline sold in the state contain 10-percent ethanol. Montana and Hawaii have passed similar laws, although they haven’t gone into effect yet. This year, Pawlenty pushed for doubling Minnesota’s ethanol mandate to 20-percent by the year 2013. He says the events of the last few months have made it clear that the nation must reduce its dependence on fossil fuels.

“I think seeing Hurricane Katrina, Hurricane Rita, instability in the Middle East and $3 or $4 gas has hopefully shocked us all to say, “Hey, we gotta do something and do it better than we have in the past,” says Pawlenty.

Pawlenty challenged all states to achieve 10-percent ethanol use by the year 2010. He says ethanol can benefit states that aren’t corn-producers, since ethanol can be made out of sugar, other grains and even garbage. He also defended ethanol subsidies, which critics have questioned.

Pawlenty”Every other fuel is subsidized too,” he says. “This notion that ethanol is subsidized and somehow it’s therefore tainted is ridiculous, because we subsidize oil like crazy! Look at the federal tax code and the incentives we give to oil exploration and production and refining.”

Pawlenty says ethanol has the added benefit of creating jobs in rural America. He says only people on the far margins of the political spectrum oppose ethanol.


7 posted on 02/28/2008 7:58:29 AM PST by HD1200
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Global cooling got you down? Drink the ethanol ...

Smart money has already headed for the exits.


8 posted on 02/28/2008 8:00:15 AM PST by Tarpon (Ignorance, the most expensive commodity produced by mankind.)
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To: rb22982

At least this is a potential solution to the obesity crisis going on in US.


13 posted on 02/28/2008 8:07:31 AM PST by MarkeyD (Just another country bumpkin looking forward to Fred!)
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NEVER!

This is the outcome of government meddling in free markets. This is the result of politicians picking up on popular contemporary themes and offering “big government” solutions.

Those responsible will get away with it without a black eye. Seldom are the politicians behind such stupidity, the bureaucrats pushing and running the show held accountable. They reap in the political capital of being “green” or whatever else but then slip out from under the hammer when it comes down and the consequences are noticed. No different anywhere else. Germany years past had “Der Gruene Punkt,” a massive recycling program which was an utter failure and cost the tax payer billions, but it sounded very good and got some politicians elected.

15 posted on 02/28/2008 8:10:44 AM PST by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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When Wall Street starts discounting and shredding the bs of Mythanol, its days as an investment and viable product will soon be history.

Put some ice on the Mythanol lumps and bruises and walk away.


18 posted on 02/28/2008 8:12:46 AM PST by Grampa Dave ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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To: rb22982
This is what happens every time our congress-critters and their populism get involved in reality.
20 posted on 02/28/2008 8:15:12 AM PST by Cold Heat (NO! (you can infer any meaning you choose))
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To: rb22982
"When is this nonsense going to end in Washington?"

When a ten mile radius hole in the earth opens up centered on the capitol dome.

34 posted on 02/28/2008 9:27:50 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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This is outstanding news.

Something about people refusing to learn from history being doomed to repeat it, or something like that . . . .

I’m waiting for Time to recycle it’s cover story on Global Cooling from the 70’s now that there’s snow in the middle east . . .

Everything dumb is new again.


36 posted on 02/28/2008 9:30:03 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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"Ethanol is foolish, Hydrogen cars a joke, Electric is polluting" Make no efforts in alternative fuel research"

37 posted on 02/28/2008 10:17:12 AM PST by NoLibZone (If the Clinton years were so great for the libs why is Obama doing so well?)
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38 posted on 02/28/2008 10:56:44 AM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: rb22982
There is a place for ethanol, but this latest boom was nuts. Many of the contractors building the plants were fly by night outfits. I know of one reputable builder who was specializing in fixing the mistakes of the original builders.

That and plants were being built where it is just nuts to put one. You need a feed source (corn, wheat, or milo), a place to sell the DDG, water, and good access to a railroad. Otherwise the margin is just to small. With the increase in oil costs, the margin is razor thin anyway.

42 posted on 02/28/2008 2:29:13 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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