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The Normalcy of Brokenness: Juno
Breakpoint with Chuck Colson ^ | 2/27/2008 | Mark Earley

Posted on 02/27/2008 7:51:50 AM PST by Mr. Silverback

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1 posted on 02/27/2008 7:51:53 AM PST by Mr. Silverback
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2 posted on 02/27/2008 7:52:51 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (It is not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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3 posted on 02/27/2008 7:53:45 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (It is not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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My wife and I went to see Juno last weekend.

I go to see about 1 movie a year..... I am picky about what I go to the theater to see.

Juno is a good movie.

4 posted on 02/27/2008 7:55:00 AM PST by rface
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Juno is a good movie.

She never gets out of her sarcastic attitude. She never gives the audience a reason to like her. I thought it was a one joke (I am constantly sarcastic, aren't I funny?) movie. Marginal at best.

5 posted on 02/27/2008 7:59:29 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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She never gets out of her sarcastic attitude. She never gives the audience a reason to like her. I thought it was a one joke (I am constantly sarcastic, aren't I funny?) movie.

They made a movie about Mrs. Bill Clinton?

6 posted on 02/27/2008 8:01:38 AM PST by pnh102
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To: Mr. Silverback
We have a broken world. Nothing new about that, really. We were told a long time ago that it was broken.

But now we find the brokeness to be an amusing source of entertainment. We wallow in the vanity of our fallen world. This is not good.

7 posted on 02/27/2008 8:02:05 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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She never gets out of her sarcastic attitude.

Sarcasm is the lowest form of humor - but somehow feminism and the government-media complex have come to adopt The Sarcastic Woman as a model of female empowerment.

8 posted on 02/27/2008 8:04:56 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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What is so tragic about the film, she commented, is the normalcy of brokenness.

Hence the reason why I will not see this movie. When they make one which shows the hardship of being a teen and having a child, then I might have some interest.

9 posted on 02/27/2008 8:05:05 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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She never gets out of her sarcastic attitude.

You better not visit England.

10 posted on 02/27/2008 8:07:27 AM PST by Clemenza (I live in New Jersey for the Same Reason People Slow Down to Look at Car Wrecks)
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To: SoldierDad
But the baby is given up for adoption in the movie. Abortion is presented as the wrong answer. She seeks out a couple to give that baby a good home (the home that Ellen Page's character wanted for herself). There is no 'good' home. But there is a home. Her teenage life goes on (after the birth).

Shoe controversies, tats, and exotic dancing notwithstanding, Diablo Cody wrote a powerful (yet funny) script. And even if Diablo, Ellen Page, etal scream from the rooftops that they are all pro-choice, they presented choosing life in a positive, wonderful way.

11 posted on 02/27/2008 8:21:36 AM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (Michelle Obama: this seasons Teresa Heinz.)
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Perhaps that is how you interpret this movie. I see it as an attempt to normalize poor choices made by our youth. Where are the lessons about making good choices before having to make this kind of choice?


12 posted on 02/27/2008 8:26:39 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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I am intrigued (and haven’t seen the movie yet, but I’ve read about it). A movie where everybody is constantly making bad decisions or is morally bankrupt, but ultimately the mother decides to give the baby life. It’s interesting to me that some in Hollywood keep “choosing life” and these movies are very very successful despite the peripheral nihilism surrounding most of the main characters. Same sort of thing happened with that Knocked Up movie. The pro-life movement should take their wins when they can get them, especially in Hollywood.


13 posted on 02/27/2008 8:41:55 AM PST by gunservative
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The pro-life movement should take their wins when they can get them, especially in Hollywood.

Bears repeating.

14 posted on 02/27/2008 8:53:54 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (It is not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: SoldierDad

I do understand what you’re saying, I think. It seems a matter of not making a “bad choice” into a “worse choice”. It’s not optimal, but it is a step in the right direction. I can tell you that I’d rather not have one of my children - son or daughter - be in that situation in the first place, but if it were to happen, there is pain, but long-term good for all, in adoption and life whereas the alternative is pain and long-term damage for all, in abortion and death. We can’t hope to overturn 35 years of cultural acceptance of this barbarism all in one fell swoop.


15 posted on 02/27/2008 8:55:37 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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I do understand what you are saying, and what the earlier poster was saying as well. Having had to deal with both situations as a parent of children who have made poor choices, I fully understand the pain that comes out of such choices.


16 posted on 02/27/2008 9:00:49 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Another Chuck Colson wake up call. This film is a must see. It may not be for some of use here but young people - as many as possible - should see it.

The pro life message is startlingly clear.

17 posted on 02/27/2008 9:18:43 AM PST by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: Puppage
She never gets out of her sarcastic attitude. She never gives the audience a reason to like her.

There were a handful of such times where the sarcastic sttitude left her ... and these times are what turned the focus onto the heart of the girl. Whithout these moments - then I would agree with your point.

18 posted on 02/27/2008 9:49:26 AM PST by rface
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and these times are what turned the focus onto the heart of the girl

And, what part would that be? She never once showed the least bit of worry, or care about giving her baby up.

19 posted on 02/27/2008 10:07:08 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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Juno does give her character something to like about her... Me thinks you need to see the movie again.


20 posted on 02/27/2008 10:12:55 AM PST by ARA
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