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“Swiftboating” the Swift Boaters
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| 23 February 2008
| John Armor (Congressman Billybob)
Posted on 02/24/2008 7:11:53 PM PST by Congressman Billybob
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John / Billybob
To: Congressman Billybob
Notwithstanding the deceptions from the left, “Swiftboating” is to tell the truth about someone, by means of named and verifiable sources, so as to destroy the candidacy of a particular person. Not one thing the Swiftboat Vets told about Kerry was false.
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posted on
02/24/2008 7:14:15 PM PST
by
coloradan
(The US is becoming a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
To: Congressman Billybob
There was also a dash of hypocrisy. When the Times editorially endorsed McCain in the Super Tuesday primaries, this hatchet job article was in the pipeline. So are you saying that McCain wasted his money hiring the democrat -top -gun- lawyer? Appears to me the supposed hit piece was more like a negotiated settlement not a hit piece because there was no there there. Idle gossip over ancient events.
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posted on
02/24/2008 7:16:24 PM PST
by
Just mythoughts
(Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
To: Congressman Billybob
A big THANK YOU from the Navy, Billybob.
Well written as usual.
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posted on
02/24/2008 7:21:40 PM PST
by
Navy Patriot
(John McCain, the Manchurian Candidate.)
To: Congressman Billybob
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posted on
02/24/2008 7:22:26 PM PST
by
Doctor Raoul
(Fire the CIA and hire the Free Clinic, someone who knows how to stop leaks.)
To: Congressman Billybob
"Kerrys narrow loss of the presidency" As I recall W won the election with the largest popular vote margin in presidential election history. Maybe I remember wrong?
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To: I see my hands
You do.
Bush won by 3 million.
Nixon beat McGovern by 18 million.
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posted on
02/24/2008 7:42:41 PM PST
by
oldbill
To: Congressman Billybob
Swiftboating, verb, telling inconvenient truths about Democrats, based on multiple named witnesses. As contrasted with manufacturing stories from "anonymous sources."
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posted on
02/24/2008 7:49:28 PM PST
by
cookcounty
(Obama reach across the aisle? He's so far to the left, he'll need a roadmap to FIND the aisle.)
To: coloradan; Congressman Billybob
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Notwithstanding the deceptions from the left, Swiftboating is to tell the truth about someone, by means of named and verifiable sources, so as to destroy the candidacy of a particular person. Not one thing the Swiftboat Vets told about Kerry was false. Another aspect of "swiftboating" that I think plays an important part in how the verb is used and perceived, is that it includes an element of long-standing grudge. That is, the Swift Boat Veterans had been slandered by Kerry 30-some years before he ran for President -- the injury and offense done those many years before had not abated.
So I think it's worth noting that "swiftboating" necessarily includes some amount of "giving what they got coming to them, at last".
That applies to the NYTimes in this instance as well, though the timeframe is different. They've nursed a grudge against conservatives for a long time, and their attack on McCain reeks of it. But similarly, I think their ombudsman probably has had ample opportunity to correct the NYTimes, and is getting no small pleasure in giving them their comeuppance.
Any comment? In addition to "destroying with truth", does "swiftboating" imply a long-held hurt that may finally be addressed?
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posted on
02/24/2008 7:50:57 PM PST
by
dayglored
(Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
To: Congressman Billybob
....It was not a surprise to me when the an overwhelming majority of Kerrys fellow swift boat commanders, and an overwhelming majority of his commanding officers, came forward to say his career was much less than he proclaimed it to be....
There, fixed it.
To: oldbill
To: Congressman Billybob; smoothsailing; freema; Just A Nobody
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posted on
02/24/2008 8:08:45 PM PST
by
jazusamo
(DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
To: Congressman Billybob
"Swiftboat: to tell the truth about a person or institution, and cause (justly deserved) harm." I like it.
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posted on
02/24/2008 8:17:24 PM PST
by
Eagles6
To: The Shrew
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posted on
02/24/2008 8:32:51 PM PST
by
MitchellC
(Put a Freeper in Congress! Freepmail me to join the John Armor for Congress ping list)
To: Spktyr; SmithL
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posted on
02/24/2008 8:37:45 PM PST
by
MitchellC
(Put a Freeper in Congress! Freepmail me to join the John Armor for Congress ping list)
To: Congressman Billybob
I should preface this by noting that I'm not a big fan of John McCain but I think that Rush was right on this one. John McCain should have known better than to ever trust the New York Times!
My grandparents used to say that a leopard doesn't change it's spots and a zebra doesn't change it's stripes. The New York Times doesn't change either; John McCain was a fool to ever trust the indorsement of the NYT! They were setting him up for this (or another) hit piece. They deliberately sat on the piece that Drudge reported about the semen-stained blue dress because Bill Clinton's sex life was his private business.
Now they make up something that is so flimsy as to be nearly invisible and they think the Conservative will turn on John McCain? I have news for them - the Conservatives have nearly all made up their minds one way or the other already. They will vote for him or they won't but snide, sneaky, deliberate lies will not turn those who are for him to be against him, or those who are opposed to him to vote for him, but they just might convince a few of those who were "on the fence" to jump off on his side.
If this one hadn't been "in the pipeline" they would have "invented" something. That's what the liberal media does - does anyone remember the phony story about officer evaluation reports on GWB that destroyed Dan Rather's career and credibility?
Liberals can't help it - it's what they do! They LIE!
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posted on
02/24/2008 8:37:50 PM PST
by
Friend_from_the_Frozen_North
(If you are, as Rush would say, "A Glittering Jewel of Colossal Ignorance" don't waste my time...)
To: jazusamo; Congressman Billybob
Swiftboating, as it applies to John Kerry...

Swiftboating as it applies to the
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to tell the truth about a person or institution, and cause (justly deserved) harm
(Thanks John)
To: Friend_from_the_Frozen_North
does anyone remember the phony story about officer evaluation reports on GWB that destroyed Dan Rather's career and credibility? It is thoroughly documented in
To Set The Record Straight
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posted on
02/24/2008 8:49:45 PM PST
by
zot
To: Congressman Billybob
The daily does of deceit and dishonesty
served up by the NYT almost defies belief.
Thank God for the courage of the honorable Swiftboaters
... then in ‘Nam and again against Kerry.
And those Orwellian twisters of language at the Slimes
again undertake to pervert the historical record
because THEY fancy themselves the newspaper of record.
Lordy, how i hope there really is a final accounting!
To: Congressman Billybob
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posted on
02/24/2008 9:01:22 PM PST
by
Cacique
(quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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