Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

With Kosovo independent, Yugoslavia is finally dead.
Slate ^ | Feb. 22, 2008 | Christopher Hitchens

Posted on 02/24/2008 1:41:33 AM PST by Blackyce


fighting words

The Serbs' Self-Inflicted Wounds

With Kosovo independent, Yugoslavia is finally dead.

By Christopher Hitchens
Posted Friday, Feb. 22, 2008, at 12:51 PM ET

Someone with a good memory of the conversation once told me how Lord Carrington, then one of the "mediators" of the incipient post-Yugoslavia war, came to the conclusion that Slobodan Milosevic was a highly dangerous man. Well-disposed toward Serbia (as the British establishment has always been), Carrington told the late dictator that he understood Serb concerns about significant Serbian minorities in Bosnia and Croatia. But why did Milosevic also insist on exclusive control over Kosovo, where the Albanian population was approximately 90 percent? "That," replied Milosevic coldly, "is for historical reasons." It's a shame, in retrospect, that it took us so long to diagnose the pathology of Serbia's combination of arrogance and self-pity, in which what is theirs is theirs and what is anybody else's is negotiable.

We used to read this same atavistic proclamation by the hellish light of burning Sarajevo, and now we glimpse it again through the flames of the blazing U.S. Embassy in Belgrade, and by the glare of similar but less dramatic arsons set by Serbs in ski masks in northern Kosovo itself. But it needs to be understood that "Serbia" itself has lost nothing and has nothing to complain about. With the independence of Kosovo, the Yugoslav idea is finally and completely dead, but it was Serbian irredentism that killed the last vestige of that idea, and it is to that account that the whole cost ought to be charged.

(Excerpt) Read more at slate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antichristian; dhimmitude; dhimmwit; hitchens; islamofascists; jihad; jihadagitprop; kosovo; serbia; wrongside; yugoslavia
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-44 next last

1 posted on 02/24/2008 1:41:36 AM PST by Blackyce
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Blackyce
Perhaps, but such tiny countries makes them very dependents of the European powers: Britain, and especially Germany and France.

Yougoslavia would have had a greater weight in the European Union than the sum of the States in which it has disintegrated.
2 posted on 02/24/2008 2:02:44 AM PST by J Aguilar (Veritas vos liberabit)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Blackyce
There’s still plenty of corporations for the West to buy, currency manipulation and absorption into the EU..
3 posted on 02/24/2008 2:15:18 AM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Blackyce

Wonder what Hitchens is gonna say when the Russian tanks roll into Kosovo...


4 posted on 02/24/2008 3:13:06 AM PST by jeddavis
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jeddavis
Wonder what Hitchens is gonna say when the Russian tanks roll into Kosovo...

He won't have to say anything, because it ain't gonna happen.

Despite some America-haters' wet dreams.
5 posted on 02/24/2008 4:04:10 AM PST by canuck_conservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

Comment #6 Removed by Moderator

To: Blackyce
It's a shame, in retrospect, that it took us so long to diagnose the pathology of Serbia's combination of arrogance and self-pity, in which what is theirs is theirs and what is anybody else's is negotiable.

That sums it up nicely.

7 posted on 02/24/2008 4:11:44 AM PST by txlurker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Blackyce; Admin Moderator

Shouldn’t the title be “The Serbs’ Self-Inflicted Wounds”, not the byline?

Excellent article BTW, finally puts the lie to all the claims made by the history-denying Serbian Apologists on this forum.


8 posted on 02/24/2008 4:11:52 AM PST by canuck_conservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: canuck_conservative
Excellent article BTW, finally puts the lie to all the claims made by the history-denying Serbian Apologists on this forum.

Agree..but man are they gonna be p!ssed when they read this.

9 posted on 02/24/2008 4:13:03 AM PST by txlurker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Godebert; tarator; Uncle Chip; FormerLib; shuckmaster; steve8714; rmlew; bayouranger; bill1952; ...
The lies and distortions are over. Hitchens has you nailed.

Let the truth shine in!

Thus, and if we exempt some decisions made by Stalinist bureaucrats after the re-creation of Yugoslavia in 1945, Kosovo has never been treated or recognized as Serb territory within Yugoslavia and never at all by international treaties outside that former state. Even those hasty Stalinist decisions were later undone by Tito, who granted Kosovo a large measure of autonomy in 1974. It is very important to remember that Slobodan Milosevic launched his own petty and violent career, as the head of a Serb-Montenegrin crime family, precisely by canceling Kosovo's pre-existing autonomy in 1990, remaking himself as a nationalist demagogue instead of a Communist one, and bringing in the roof of the Yugoslav federation.
10 posted on 02/24/2008 4:26:49 AM PST by canuck_conservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Blackyce
With Kosovo independent, Yugoslavia is finally dead.

The dream of the WWII Croatian/Muslim Ustasha come true --

11 posted on 02/24/2008 4:30:25 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: canuck_conservative

Take me off your ping list, troll.


12 posted on 02/24/2008 4:41:56 AM PST by shuckmaster
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: canuck_conservative

Kosovo’s stark warning

By Caroline B. Glick

http://www.JewishWorldReview.com | Kosovo’s US-backed declaration of independence is deeply troubling. By setting a precedent of legitimizing the secession of disaffected minorities, it weakens the long-term viability of multi-ethnic states. In so doing, it destabilizes the already stressed state-based international system.

States as diverse as Canada, Morocco, Spain, Georgia, Russia and China currently suffer problems with politicized minorities. They are deeply concerned by the Kosovo precedent. Even the US has latent sovereignty issues with its increasingly politicized Hispanic minority along its border with Mexico. It may one day experience a domestic backlash from its support for Kosovar independence from Serbia.

Setting aside its global implications, it is hard to see how Kosovo constitutes a viable state. Its forty percent unemployment is a function of the absence of proper economic and governing infrastructures.

In November 2007, a European Commission report detailed the Kosovo Liberation Army’s failure to build functioning governing apparatuses. The report noted that “due to a lack of clear political will to fight corruption, and to insufficient legislative and implementing measures, corruption is still widespread… Civil servants are still vulnerable to political interference, corrupt practices and nepotism.” Moreover, “Kosovo’s public administration remains weak and inefficient.”

The report continued, “The composition of the government anti-corruption council does not sufficiently guarantee its impartiality,” and “little progress can be reported in the area of organized crime and combating of trafficking in human beings.”

Additionally, the prosecution of Albanian war criminals is “hampered by the unwillingness of the local population to testify” against them. This is in part due to the fact that “there is still no specific legislation on witness protection in place.”

The fledgling failed-state of Kosovo is a great boon for the global jihad. It is true that Kosovar Muslims by and large do not subscribe to radical Islam. But it is also true that they have allowed their territory to be used as bases for Al Qaida operations; that members of the ruling KLA have direct links to al Qaida; and that the Islamic world as a whole perceived Kosovo’s fight for independence from Serbia as a jihad for Islamic domination of the disputed province.

According to a 2002 Wall Street Journal report, al Qaida began operating actively in Kosovo, and the rest of the Balkans in 1992. Osama bin Laden visited Albania in 1996 and 1997. He received a Bosnian passport from the Bosnian embassy in Austria in 1993. Acting on bin Laden’s orders, in 1994 his deputy, Ayman Zawahiri set up training bases throughout the Balkans including a training center in Mitrovica, Kosovo. The Taliban and al Qaida set up drug trafficking operations in Kosovo to finance their operations in Afghanistan and beyond.

In 2006, John Gizzi reported in Human Events that the German intelligence service, BND confirmed that the 2005 bombings in Britain and the 2004 bombings in Spain were organized in Kosovo. Furthermore, “the man at the center of the provision of the explosives in both instances was an Albanian, operating mostly out of Kosovo…who is second ranking leader of the Kosovo Liberation Army, Niam Behzloulzi.”

Then too, at its 1998 meeting in Pakistan, the Organization of the Islamic Conference declared that the Albanian separatists in Kosovo were fighting a jihad. The OIC called on the Muslim world to help “this fight for freedom on the occupied Muslim territories.”

Supporters of Kosovo claim that as victims of “genocide,” Kosovar Muslims deserve independence. But if the Muslims in Kosovo have been targeted for annihilation by the Serbs, then how is it that they have increased from 48 percent of the population in 1948 to 92 percent today? Indeed, Muslims comprised only 78 percent of the population in 1991, the year before Yugoslavia broke apart.

In recent years particularly, it is Kosovo’s Serbian Christians, not its Albanian Muslims that are targeted for ethnic cleansing. Since 1999, two-thirds of Kosovo’s Serbs — some 250,000 people — have fled the area.

The emergence of a potentially destabilizing state in Kosovo is clearly an instance of political interests trumping law. Under international law, Kosovo has no right to be considered a sovereign state. Even UN Security Council Resolution 1244 from 1999, which the KLA claims provides the legal basis for Kosovar sovereignty explicitly recognizes Serbian sovereignty over Kosovo.


13 posted on 02/24/2008 5:00:26 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: canuck_conservative
In recent years particularly, it is Kosovo’s Serbian Christians, not its Albanian Muslims that are targeted for ethnic cleansing. Since 1999, two-thirds of Kosovo’s Serbs — some 250,000 people — have fled the area.

The emergence of a potentially destabilizing state in Kosovo is clearly an instance of political interests trumping law. Under international law, Kosovo has no right to be considered a sovereign state. Even UN Security Council Resolution 1244 from 1999, which the KLA claims provides the legal basis for Kosovar sovereignty explicitly recognizes Serbian sovereignty over Kosovo.

The lies and distortions are over. Caroline Glick has you nailed.

Let the truth shine in!

14 posted on 02/24/2008 5:08:01 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Uncle Chip

Do a quick Amazon search if you want to see where Christopher Hitchens is coming from.


15 posted on 02/24/2008 5:15:20 AM PST by shuckmaster
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: shuckmaster

Yep — where he is coming from and where he is headed to as well.


16 posted on 02/24/2008 5:33:40 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: canuck_conservative

Who is more likely to be true more often? Glick or Hitchens?


17 posted on 02/24/2008 5:35:20 AM PST by steve8714 (Loyalty has an expiration date and is not transferable.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: jeddavis

I’m sure there are enough Chechens there already to make that an ugly event.


18 posted on 02/24/2008 5:35:55 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Member of the irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: steve8714

Hitchens


19 posted on 02/24/2008 5:45:52 AM PST by canuck_conservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Blackyce

......irredentism......

Foul....... red flag for making up a word


20 posted on 02/24/2008 5:47:55 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Never say never (there'll be a VP you'll like))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-44 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson