Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

No excuse for violence against women
the daily gleaner ^ | February 22nd, 2008 | Wilfred Langmaid

Posted on 02/23/2008 7:54:50 PM PST by buccaneer81

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-77 next last
To: Twink
Fortunately, he refused to let the system screw him and fought back and won, unlike my brother.

Glad to hear there a a few winners out there. Sad part is, the kids never win.

41 posted on 02/23/2008 8:58:56 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: buccaneer81

...unless a mob of renegade feminists starts an attempt at genocide.

There’s no excuse for adultery. There’s no excuse for sodomy.


42 posted on 02/23/2008 8:59:55 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: freespirited
Yup, you are a member of the gender that does the fighting and the dying, that loses custody of the children in divorce, and that has the shorter average lifespan.

Aside from the standing up to do the fighting, that's because of his sex, not so much his gender. Sex = male/female. Gender = masculine/feminine.

43 posted on 02/23/2008 9:00:35 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Friend_from_the_Frozen_North
That was the place (just outside of Presque Isle).

Yep. Limestone. My mom was from New Brunswick and my dad was a B-52 pilot. I have relatives in Caribou and Houlton.

44 posted on 02/23/2008 9:01:05 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne

My ex was never a good wife, but I never raised a hand to her. My mistake was trying to keep things together for the sake of the kids. That all ended when she killed her boyfriend..... Shot him in my kitchen with my gun. Shot my new fridge too. I was out of town and had to come home to clean up. She lied to the cops and put on an act and got off on self defense.

We divorced and she got a better lawyer than me, which I paid for. I got custody of my 4 kids, she got the house and alimony for life due to her disability (gone dopey due to drugs).


45 posted on 02/23/2008 9:02:59 PM PST by umgud
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: familyop
There’s no excuse for adultery.

Absolutely right. My ex screwed around at work and got my son and $800 a month from me.

What a country!

46 posted on 02/23/2008 9:03:05 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: Our man in washington
With the “abuse” statistic, I’d like to see what is defined as “abuse” before I give too much credence to that 1 out of 3 statistic.

Many of the statistics in this subject area do exactly what you suggest - such as including unwanted oggling along with violent rape. My surprise is that such broad statistics are so low.

47 posted on 02/23/2008 9:04:36 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: lepton; Secret Agent Man
"Does it matter what sex they are?"

If we're talking about someone with a gun or a knife who is within 10 or 15 feet of me, no it doesn't matter what sex they are! A demented woman with a knife can ruin your whole day (or week or life)!

I also "carry" on a regular and recurring basis; I will warn someone only once (if the opportunity allows) that I will "defend myself if necessary with lethal force". If they take th hint, I will let them walk away; if they don't, I will do as I've promised (and then call 911).

48 posted on 02/23/2008 9:08:18 PM PST by Friend_from_the_Frozen_North (If you are, as Rush would say, "A Glittering Jewel of Colossal Ignorance" don't waste my time...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: buccaneer81

No, they don’t unfortunately. However, he has a wonderful relationship with his teen daughter and he fought hard for that. And, he and his brother now have a good relationship with their dad.

I’m a woman. The author of this article is a wuss. There are abused women but I question the numbers. It does a disservice to the women who really are abused or raped, when there’s been so much watering down of the definitions or the assumption that anyone who claims either MUST be telling the truth (LAX case).

The fact that he claims to be of the privelege class, re white male, says all I need to know about him. The white male is the only class that can’t claim *victim* status and is the only portion of our society today that gets screwed in everything. Seems like he has white male liberal guilt.


49 posted on 02/23/2008 9:10:07 PM PST by Twink
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: buccaneer81

My Dad was a Navigator in a B-36 until he was grounded for some reason (possibly alcholism?) and became the Squadron Supply Officer...


50 posted on 02/23/2008 9:10:40 PM PST by Friend_from_the_Frozen_North (If you are, as Rush would say, "A Glittering Jewel of Colossal Ignorance" don't waste my time...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: Friend_from_the_Frozen_North
The the courage and self-respect Mom had was surely passed on to you! Great post.
51 posted on 02/23/2008 9:11:41 PM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: endthematrix

I’d like to hope so; my wife and I went to see her in September. She was terminal with Cancer and died on October 25th but she was the one who comforted us and told my wife not to cry because “we will see each other again.”


52 posted on 02/23/2008 9:15:03 PM PST by Friend_from_the_Frozen_North (If you are, as Rush would say, "A Glittering Jewel of Colossal Ignorance" don't waste my time...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: Friend_from_the_Frozen_North

I posted because I can clearly tell, and I don’t even know you personally! God bless her and your family. I’m sorry for your recent loss.


53 posted on 02/23/2008 9:27:09 PM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | View Replies]

Comment #54 Removed by Moderator

Comment #55 Removed by Moderator

To: buccaneer81
My ex screwed around at work and got my son and $800 a month from me.

That's terrible. But I know a man whose wife cheated. He threw HER out of the house and got full custody of their son. OTOH, I know a woman whose husband up and left her (presumably for someone else), and she had to give him half of everything including her inheritance (he had brought nothing into the marriage). So, the idea that men are wronged all the time in divorce cases is not always the case.

I'd say, if one spouse commits adultery, hence breaking the marriage vows, the other automatically should receive primary/full custody of the children, and the cheating spouse should be awarded no financial support. Some other laws need to be changed, too.

56 posted on 02/23/2008 9:40:34 PM PST by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: buccaneer81

I’ve never understood how some men can beat their wives and survive. They have to sleep sometime.


57 posted on 02/23/2008 9:51:22 PM PST by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: buccaneer81

I’ve never understood how some men can beat their wives and survive. They have to sleep sometime.


58 posted on 02/23/2008 9:52:21 PM PST by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: buccaneer81; yldstrk
You really showed your character there, having gone to the Admin Mod to delete my post.

You went off on yldstrk for reasons in your own mind. It was uncalled for. You want to talk about character, a real Freeper would suck it up and give him a no-strings apology.

59 posted on 02/23/2008 9:56:37 PM PST by an amused spectator (AGW: If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a research lab, you never know what you'll find)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: buccaneer81
It is our collective responsibility as a civilized society to promote gender equality.

No, that's not even close to being true.

Our "collective" responsibility is to teach children right from wrong and to teach them wisdom.

Is abuse wrong? Absolutely, and men and women should both be taught not to be abusive. While abuse of women by men is more visible and is decried more often, the opposite also occurs. More typically, men abuse physically while women abuse verbally or emotionally. In either case, the abuse is wrong.

Tolerating abuse of one's self is also wrong, and while there are some legitimate excuses, they are far fewer than society sometimes leads us to believe. Simply giving up and saying that one's self-image is too weak to walk away from the abuse is not an excuse. Giving up in that way is wrong.

Often abusers seem to be the most desirable of partners. Women abusers are sometimes very beautiful. Men abusers are sometimes very handsome and charming. The abuser's allure is no excuse for someone to stay with an abuser.

When someone is chronically and deliberately abusive, the law should punish the abuser. At the same time, most of the "no tolerance" and similar "strict" laws are mostly invitations for manipulation. If we as a society spent more time instilling children with self-respect, we'd go much further to stopping abuse.

Bill

60 posted on 02/23/2008 9:59:14 PM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-77 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson