Posted on 02/22/2008 5:54:48 AM PST by Kaslin
Hillary Clinton’s recent primary losses to Barack Obama may say as much about Democrats’ desires to be done with the Clintons as they do about the cult of personality that is Obama.
Some say Hillary is now paying for the sins of her husband. I agree that may be true to some degree, but in many cases she was an accomplice to those sins and has only herself to blame. I have wondered for some time whether or not Americans would want another soap opera presidency and I think we are seeing the answer in the most recent primary vote counts. There are many reasons Democrats have to send the Clintons packing. Here are a few:
1. Democrats don’t want a return to non-stop scandal defense mode. Democrats like to wrap the Clinton scandals up in a blue dress and say they were all about sex, but that is ridiculous. There were numerous scandals in the Clinton White House well before anyone knew who Monica Lewinski was and many of them involved Hillary. The travel office firings, subpoenaed billing records, Whitewater, and FBI files are only the beginning of the list. It goes on for a while and includes names like Vince Foster, Johnny Chung, and the FALN.
Why on earth would Democrats want to sign up for a second ride on the Clinton scandal train when they could opt for a clean slate candidate? Besides, it would not be so easy to deflect future scandals as it was previous ones. I don’t think Ken Starr will be making a repeat performance as boogeyman and he was a necessary element to the Clinton scandal survival strategy. Without a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy to oppose, there is not so much enthusiasm for defending the Clintons.
I believe there is a whole group of Democrats out there who are secretly enjoying being able to vote against a Clinton. They can take out their frustrations with the Clintons and still vote for a Democrat. For the first time in 16 years, Democrats can vote against a Clinton without having to vote for a Republican to do it.
2. The Clinton is no longer the hip one in the race. Think about it. In Bill Clinton’s presidential primary he was up against Paul Tsongas, Tom Harkin, Bob Kerrey, and some other people I don’t even remember. In the general elections he was up against George H. W. Bush and Bob Dole. Hillary, in sharp contrast, is up against the Obamassiah who makes women swoon.
It is 16 years later and she is now the establishment candidate. What it comes down to is that even though Hillary was married to the “Man from Hope,” now she faces a candidate much better at Hope-A-Dope (as Jon Henke calls it) than she and her husband ever dreamed of being. Instead of the Man from Hope that Bill Clinton was, Hillary is in many ways just “The Man” who stands in the way of the first black President of the United States. (Yeah, that’s right – it wasn’t Bill Clinton, regardless of what Toni Morrison said.)
3. Not only is Hillary not hip enough, but she is not liberal enough for the Democrat base. Democrats, like Republicans, will settle for a moderate if they are desperate enough for a win and if they believe that person has the best chance of getting elected, but not if they have a more liberal candidate who appears to have just as good a chance to win in the general election. Hillary is far from a moderate. She is definitely liberal, but on some issues she has angered her base by not being liberal enough, or at least not being in step with the far left in the base – most notably on the issue of Iraq. Barack Obama has the distinction of having the most liberal voting record in the Senate.
Although things look really bad for Hillary Clinton at this point, and many have said she is done, I will never count a Clinton out until the last vote is cast. But even if Hillary pulls a rabbit out of her hat on March 4, and some super delegates out of it after that, a statement has been made by many Democrats. The Clinton magic as we once knew it is gone. The Elvis in Bill Clinton left the building long ago and Hillary’s inevitability went with it. I suspect many Democrats are cleansing their political souls in the process.
It really boils down to which Party can get out the voters doesn’t it.
The GOP has made serious blunders with the decision to run “Mod”, which means Left, which means RINO to Conservatives, and we know two Leftist Political Parties do not a stable Government make.
In last nights debate Hillary reminded me why I hate her so much.
Speaking of George Bush she said this:
CLINTON: “The world will breathe a sigh of relief once he is gone. We all know that.”
What a horrible thing to say about the outgoing President. It sounds like she is speaking about a notorious dictator, like Castro, Ahmadininejad, or Kim Jong II, but no, she said that about George W. Bush – the man who by tradition will be sitting on the same podium at the inauguration when the next President is sworn in – a display of great respect and of a peaceful transition for all the World to see. It is shameful on her part to have chosen those words.
I totally agree with you on this point. Very well said! She and her reprobate husband have no class and are not capable of commanding respect because they show none. She is unsuited to be Commander in Chief, and it is very telling that when the reporter from Univision asked her about being Commander in Chief she immediately wanted to turn back to her diatribe about socializing healthcare. She and Obama are out of their element trying to portray themselves as Commander in Chief. Her disrespect for the military has a long trail. Pres. Bush on the other hand has been very respected by his military and the dirty secret Hillary doesn’t want to talk about is that those who hate him around the world respect and fear him. There was never fear of or respect for Bill Clinton. This is why the terrorism expansion in the 90’s was so severe and got us to 9/11.
That would be a fatal assumption. Clintons NEVER go ANYWHERE quietly.
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There have been increased vanities on this very topic, with arkancide an obvious and recurring theme. This is really the story of the election - might as well try to find something fun about it -
What will the Clintons do if she is not the nominee? Would she accept the Veep job? Would it be offered? Would Obama be wise to take out additional life insurance?
It appears (IMHO) that the bloom is off the rose, that the negatives that follow them have caught up with them, and that she may have to content herself with her position in the Senate. The world seems to have moved on.
And I would not have thought it possible only a few short weeks ago.
Now, if we only had a real republican to run against Obama. Oh, well, 4 years of Obama can’t be all that bad. Can it?
You know, I'm not so sure. The one thing that seems to be emerging from the Dem race is that Hillary was so arrogant about her coronation that she didn't even have a "plan B" in case Super Duper Tuesday failed to cinch it for her. Now, she's caught flat-footed. She apparently doesn't have the necessary dirt on Obama, and she can't be too critical of him... lest she display her sheer desperation.
I dare say, "it's over" for Hillary.
but in many cases she was an accomplice to those sins and has only herself to blame.
AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN! You are correct. This is what it has come down to. So, putting up with all the garbage her husband threw at her and her taking it all while holding onto his coattails ha done nothing but pull her to the agony of defeat. She went against everything just to ride the coattails of a loser. Now it’s over. Nothing gained at all. Obama will be the nominee. Will be beat McCain? We’ll have to wait and see. Either way I’m glad there won’t be clintins in the White House again.
The irony is that she voted that way because she assumed that no one would dare run against her from the left and the only competition would be from the Republicans. She hoped to blunt any "soft on defending America" claim and thus set up her own doom with every Dem running on the left of her on that issue.
“Consider though, in 2012 she’ll be running for re-election to her senate seat so it will be do or die time then”
Fearless prediction:
If she does try again in 2012, she will get Eliiot Spitzer to ram through the NY state legislature a bill to let sitting senators in that state run for both offices simultaneously (assuming that senators in NY cannot do that now).
Bank on it.
- John
Let's assume for the moment that Obama wins it all in November.
In primary 2012 she'll berate him like he was Bill wearing the blue dress, with a See I told you so!
Expect that she when the Obama honeymoon (I give it less than 3-4 months with her, the media 12 months or so) is over to start to criticize him in ways that only she can.
Now that is excellent word-herding....so well said and so true!
If you thought 4 years of Jimmy Carter weren't all that bad, then no. But when Carter was President, Al-Queda didn't exist, China was still impotent, and Israel was run by real men. Obama's biggest foreign policy advisor is Zbiginew Brzezinski - same as Carter. The foreign policy of surrender. Then there's Obama's vision for the Great Society, higher taxes to pay for that vision and all the programs that make up a Nanny-State Nirvhana.
So, yeah, it can.
Note to Obama: If you are going to knock off the Don, be SURE you succeed the FIRST time.
Hillary Clinton is tired and wasted and worn out. And it shows. Maybe she woke up and said to herself-- "Why the hell do I want to be president and work like a dog"
Hillary is basically a braggadocios bum who has never done anything in the Senate and never done anything prior to that. Hillary is where she is only because of Bill Clinton while Obama is a self made man I think she gradually realized that being president is a 24/7 job and requires hard work. And Hillary sure looks like she has a thyroid condition
Who got her muddle head advice from an all female echo chamber. Her top advisers are liberal women and most are lawyers. Obama knows America better than Hillary's coterie. Obama knows how to con the American people
And what's with always wearing pantsuits? What an idiotic message to send
Based on this I'd say that McCain is in big, big trouble if Obama doesn't self-destruct (for example, by letting his wife loose).
When the Clintons look conciliatory. ..that’s the time to don the kevlar body armor.
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:-) but, sadly, spot on.
If Obama gets the nomination but loses to McCain....
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Not happenin’. Can you say “President Obama”?
...his supporters have left judgement and rational thought behind.
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I am pretty sure that is a prerequisite to membership in the Democratic Party.
Yup. Huma knows that.
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