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Van Driver Arrested for Role in Minnesota School Bus Crash (another illegal)
FOX 9 ^ | 2-21-08 | KMSP tv

Posted on 02/21/2008 4:07:52 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB

COTTONWOOD, Minn. -- Authorities have confirmed that the the driver of the van that struck the school bus that killed 4 students on Tuesday is an illegal alien.

Officials at the Immigration and Customs Enforcement are checking to see where she came from and how long she's been in Minnesota. FOX 9 has also learned that the name she gave to police, Alainiss Morales, is an alias.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alianissmorales; aliens; amnesty; border; bus; crimalien; crimaliens; criminalaliens; danedanedanedane; daneshere; homelandsecurity; illegal; illegals; immigrantlist; mn; nationalsecurity; noamnestyforillegals; olgamarinafranco; publikskoolz; schoolbus
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To: Dane

No innuendo. Just a question.


61 posted on 02/21/2008 5:12:24 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: All

BTW, should the Beatles be held responsible for charlie manson’s crimes.


62 posted on 02/21/2008 5:12:35 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
So to paraphrase George Orwell, some vehicular manslaughter is more equal than others.

Sorry, but you just flunked the logic exam.

Suppose I'm in charge of the prison system in your community. One day I illegally release a criminal. I arrange for him to get a job working for a friend of mine who needs cheap labor. This employer knows this man is a criminal who by law should be behind bars, but he doesn't report him to authorities because he likes paying low wages.

One day, this criminal crashes his vehicle into a car filled with your loved ones, killing several of them. An investigation reveals that he shouldn't have even been out on the roads. He should have been in prison, but I released him because I didn't want to be bothered with dealing with him. Likewise, the employer enabled him to stay around by paying him and protecting him.

Would your attitude be, "Golly, gee, I know I lost some loved ones here, but really, anyone could have been driving that car. It would be Orwellian to blame puroresu for illegally releasing him from prison. It would be Orwellian to blame that cheap employer who didn't turn him in. They are totally innocent in all this."

That wouldn't be your attitude at all, and you know it. But unless it hits home, you're going to continue to defend this criminality because of some personal benefit you derive from it (financial, romantic, who knows?). If thousands of Americans, including children, must die for your profit or amusement, so be it.

63 posted on 02/21/2008 5:16:35 PM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: Dane
BTW, should the Beatles be held responsible for charlie manson’s crimes.

If Manson had been their roadie and he was sneaked illegally into the country, yes.

64 posted on 02/21/2008 5:18:30 PM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: puroresu
Suppose I'm in charge of the prison system in your community. One day I illegally release a criminal. I arrange for him to get a job working for a friend of mine who needs cheap labor. This employer knows this man is a criminal who by law should be behind bars, but he doesn't report him to authorities because he likes paying low wages....

Would your attitude be, "Golly, gee, I know I lost some loved ones here, but really, anyone could have been driving that car. It would be Orwellian to blame puroresu for illegally releasing him from prison. It would be Orwellian to blame that cheap employer who didn't turn him in. They are totally innocent in all this."

I don't get your "logic". Are you saying Mexico is a "prison". Are you saying a person who moves from obama's Illinois to Georgia is escaping from a prison.

Again maybe you should look at the individual instead of blaming all the sins of the individual on an ethnicity.

65 posted on 02/21/2008 5:22:47 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
Dane, you’ve been FR’s resident Quisling apologist for all illegal invaders for years. You never mind criminal invaders, until AFTER they have killed some innocent American kids. At least, that’s when you can squeeze out 1/10th of a fake crocodile tear. But until that killing, you are just FINE with illegal invaders. This killer was stopped last year, and given a walk....because of Quisling policies. Now, the Quisling price is paid in innocent blood-—not fake crocodile tears.
66 posted on 02/21/2008 5:23:40 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: CindyDawg

Don’t mind Dane. Without the Quislings, these threads would peter out after 20 or so replies. Remember: every reply means 15 lurkers will read the story about another illegal alien killer of innocent Americans......and the Quislings who protect the killers.


67 posted on 02/21/2008 5:25:56 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: puroresu

Minnesota Freepers..why not Freep this employer?


68 posted on 02/21/2008 5:26:36 PM PST by Oldexpat
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To: Travis McGee
At least, that’s when you can squeeze out 1/10th of a fake crocodile tear.

You are scary and elmer gantry like, IMO.

This killer was stopped last year, and given a walk....

And also was the native born American who plowed down 8 in Maryland(per reply #39 of this thread), but you are silent on that.

69 posted on 02/21/2008 5:27:47 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Oldexpat

Same with the employer of the illegal who killed the kid in Michigan this weekend.


70 posted on 02/21/2008 5:29:06 PM PST by cripplecreek (Just call me M.O.M. (Maverick Opposed to McCain.))
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To: Dane
I don't get your "logic". Are you saying Mexico is a "prison". Are you saying a person who moves from obama's Illinois to Georgia is escaping from a prison.

I'm saying that it's illegal for an illegal alien to be inside our borders. If politicians are looking the other way and not enforcing our border laws, and in fact are "wink, wink, nod, nod" encouraging them to come here by floating amnesty proposals, then those politicians share in the responsibility for any carnage these illegals cause.

Here's another example. Suppose I'm the principal of a high school. The law says no one is allowed inside the schools other than students, staff, and people with legitimate business there. But I ignore the law and start letting people off the street hang out in the hallways. One day, one of them kills your kid. Am I not responsible if I allowed this guy to enter the building illegally?

71 posted on 02/21/2008 5:29:42 PM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: Travis McGee; Dane
Now, the Quisling price is paid in innocent blood-

Innocent American children, two brothers ripped from one home.......because of an ILLEGAL who had NO RIGHT BEING HERE.

Jesse Javens, 13 DEAD
Hunter Javens, 9 DEAD

Reed Stevens, 12 DEAD
Emilee Olson, 9 DEAD

4 INNOCENT children, 2 of whom could be considered yet babies for all they "got" to live.............DEAD.

72 posted on 02/21/2008 5:30:17 PM PST by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: Oldexpat
Minnesota Freepers..why not Freep this employer?

Are you going to make this freeping universal and freep every employer where a convicted Minnesotan murderer was employed.

73 posted on 02/21/2008 5:31:46 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
Are you going to make this freeping universal and freep every employer where a convicted Minnesotan murderer was employed.

What part of "illegally in the country" don't you understand?

74 posted on 02/21/2008 5:33:36 PM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: nicmarlo

Lets not forget Daniel Turner, 14 of Michigan who was killed by an illegal alien on Monday. (Run down Sunday, died Monday)


75 posted on 02/21/2008 5:35:26 PM PST by cripplecreek (Just call me M.O.M. (Maverick Opposed to McCain.))
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To: WOBBLY BOB
You can bet that the Minnesota government knew this woman was in Minnesota illegally. She probably has received lots of government care. I’m sure a “buck stops here” guy like Pawlenty will take responsibility for this.
76 posted on 02/21/2008 5:35:56 PM PST by Perchant
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To: Dane

No, just the employers that break the law hiring people they aren’t legally allowed to hire.


77 posted on 02/21/2008 5:36:19 PM PST by muggs
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To: puroresu
I'm saying that it's illegal for an illegal alien to be inside our borders. If politicians are looking the other way and not enforcing our border laws, and in fact are "wink, wink, nod, nod" encouraging them to come here by floating amnesty proposals, then those politicians share in the responsibility for any carnage these illegals cause.

Again what's the "logic", it still seems that you are blaming the felonious crimes of one, on a whole ethnicity, unless you consider someone washing dishes to make a living a crime.

78 posted on 02/21/2008 5:36:30 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: cripplecreek

One has to wonder what role, if any, the employer played in obtaining an ID card for this woman........


79 posted on 02/21/2008 5:37:07 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

The illegal that killed the kid in Michigan the other day had a driver’s license too.


80 posted on 02/21/2008 5:38:20 PM PST by cripplecreek (Just call me M.O.M. (Maverick Opposed to McCain.))
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