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Teen MySpace Hoaxer's Lament
The Smoking Gun ^ | 02/21/08 | The Smoking Gun

Posted on 02/21/2008 10:22:40 AM PST by DFG

FEBRUARY 21--The parents of an Ohio boy who was expelled this month for creating a phony MySpace profile that described his middle school's principal as a child molester have filed a federal lawsuit claiming that the 13-year-old's free speech rights have been violated by education officials. Toader and Marianna Osan claim that their son (who is identified only by his initials in U.S. District Court filings) was improperly booted from the eighth grade at Hillside Middle School in Parma after educators learned of the boy's creation of a MySpace page for principal Jeff Cook.

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Prison is in this boy's future thanks to his stupid parents.
1 posted on 02/21/2008 10:22:41 AM PST by DFG
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To: DFG

Do they not understand slander and libel?


2 posted on 02/21/2008 10:23:33 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: DFG

Homelessness is in THEIR future after the principal cleans them out for their kid’s slander.


3 posted on 02/21/2008 10:24:40 AM PST by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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To: DFG

what the hell kind of name is “toader”?


4 posted on 02/21/2008 10:25:14 AM PST by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: DFG
His stupid parents named Toader and Marianna. I can't believe these two got together.
5 posted on 02/21/2008 10:26:08 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Don't trust anyone who can’t take a joke. [Congressman BillyBob])
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To: DFG
We have a world in which you can't say "niggardly", you can't joke about a 'ho, and you can't say "That's so gay".

We all lost our free speech rights a long time ago. That ship has sailed. Now, the point is that this boy has no class and has slandered someone on a public forum. And he got punished for it. Too bad. So sad. I'm ready to move on.

6 posted on 02/21/2008 10:26:16 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: goodwithagun
"Do they not understand slander and libel?"

Neither of which is cover by free speech rights.

I hope the principal sues the boy right back.

7 posted on 02/21/2008 10:26:21 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.../ Get well Soon John Force!!!)
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To: kingattax
"what the hell kind of name is “toader”?"

Maybe this one is the grandparent's fault.

8 posted on 02/21/2008 10:26:59 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

As a publik scewl teechur, I would love to see the principal sue like crazy!


9 posted on 02/21/2008 10:27:33 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: DFG

I remember a time not too long ago when boys were allowed minor mischief. When cursing, or insulting teachers, was punished by washing ones mouth out with soap, or a spanking, and not being expelled nor sued for slander.


10 posted on 02/21/2008 10:29:23 AM PST by TennesseeProfessor
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To: DFG
Count on the school district huddling in the corner and offering to settle in less than 7 days after the ACLU swoops in for their cut of the action.
11 posted on 02/21/2008 10:29:26 AM PST by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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To: nina0113

Yup.

And a suit for libel (I think the internet is more akin to print media, so libel, rather than slander, is the correct legal category), beginning with a petition for a cease-and-desist court order, would have been the correct way to proceed.

Expelling or suspending the student from school for out of school activities is a naked abuse of state power.

If a crime is committed outside of school, it’s a matter for the police and the criminal courts. If a tort is committed outside of school, it’s a matter for the victim’s lawyers and the civil courts. In either case, the school has no business expelling the student.


12 posted on 02/21/2008 10:30:04 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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Even for harassment? Because the school is calling it that, and I think they are dead on. If a coworker harasses you out of work, you can make things pretty tough for him at work. Especially if you file a restraining order.


13 posted on 02/21/2008 10:31:50 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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Well they have tied educators hands, they are not allowed to give soap or a spank....so what options do they have??


14 posted on 02/21/2008 10:33:27 AM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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And a suit for libel (I think the internet is more akin to print media, so libel, rather than slander, is the correct legal category), beginning with a petition for a cease-and-desist court order, would have been the correct way to proceed.

Whichever one it is, I hope the principal strips the family down to their shorts and puts them out on the corner shaking a dixie cup.

15 posted on 02/21/2008 10:37:13 AM PST by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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To: TennesseeProfessor
I remember a time not too long ago when boys were allowed minor mischief. When cursing, or insulting teachers, was punished by washing ones mouth out with soap, or a spanking, and not being expelled nor sued for slander.

In this day and age, to publically call out your school principal as a child molester is more than minor mischief. Post that he's an a$$hole, don't accuse him of a crime.

16 posted on 02/21/2008 10:38:15 AM PST by Dianna
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“so what options do they have??”

I think the parents need to take action and give the kid a licking......a Toader licking!

Militant


17 posted on 02/21/2008 10:38:38 AM PST by militant2 ("From time to time, the tree of Liberty must be nourished with the blood of tyrants!")
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To: DFG

Proper Response:
Principal sues student for slander, which he would win as long as the statements are not true. Student loses, but has due process, and constitution is followed.

Improper Response:
Principal uses authority as minor government official to arbitrarily punish student for his speech. Acting as judge, jury, and punisher. No due process and constitution not followed.

Additional Improper Response:
Citizens reading about the situation hear what student did and are so incensed at his actions that they side with the government official in his arbitrary actions rather than putting aside the facts and emotions of the specific case and sticking with dispassionate adherence to the Constitution.


18 posted on 02/21/2008 10:38:45 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: DFG

The principal would probably be well within his rights to sue for slander/libel as a private citizen... but he should not be using the school discipline system to punish the kid for something presumably done on his own time.


19 posted on 02/21/2008 10:39:41 AM PST by Sloth (If you took an oath to support & defend the U.S. Constitution, can you vote for its domestic enemy?)
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This is not a free speech issue. Its a violation of MySpace rules to create a false profile.


20 posted on 02/21/2008 10:40:54 AM PST by rintense (You don't advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. Piss off McCain and Huck!)
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