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New rampage, old solutions
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | February 19, 2008 | Editorial

Posted on 02/19/2008 3:38:37 PM PST by Graybeard58

It's become an all-too-familiar scenario: A seemingly normal young man unable to cope with life's stresses shoots up a college campus. The nation mourns the dead and calls on its leaders to do something to stop these random acts of terror.

Policymakers and educators who sowed the seeds of massacre by making campuses gun-free eventually settle on a strategy of more bureaucracy and more restrictions on individual liberties, and declare the campuses safe again. Then, another "disturbed individual" goes on a rampage, and the cycle begins anew.

Northern Illinois University's response to the Virginia Tech slayings last April was typical. It created an emergency-alert system that would lock down the campus and notify everyone by e-mail that a gunman was on the grounds. Last Thursday, the NIU system got a real-life test when Steven Kazmierczak, armed with four guns he bought legally in a state that has some of the most restrictive gun laws in America, opened fire in a lecture hall. The e-mails went out, and 10 officers were in the hall within 90 seconds. In between, Kazmierczak got off 54 rounds, killed six people, wounded 16 and committed suicide.

In the aftermath, NIU officials declared their plan a success. Based on execution, it may have been, but the body count shows just how ineffective rules and laws can be.

As the latest cycle moves to the planning phase — Connecticut hopes to have its latest reactive conference on school safety in March — expect efforts to focus on measures that will be as effective in stopping armed killers as the NIU e-mails were. It won't dawn on conferees that rampages don't occur at state police barracks, National Guard armories or military bases. Cowardly killers are nuts, but they're not crazy enough to go where their victims might be armed.

Acknowledging that would require policymakers and educators to admit gun control in America has been wrong-headed, lethally so. So rather than consider conceal-carry laws for professors, ROTC students and others with gun training, they will reaffirm their no-gun policies, take "meaningful action to prevent gun violence" that doesn't rise to the level of window-dressing and declare the nation's campuses safe again. Until the next "disturbed individual" goes on a rampage.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: academia; banglist; education; gunfreezone; niu
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1 posted on 02/19/2008 3:38:37 PM PST by Graybeard58
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To: VegasCowboy; digger48; Veeram; Gabz; fire and forget; oswegodeee; woollyone; Squat; ...

Ping to a Republican-American Editorial.

If you want on or off this list, let me know.


2 posted on 02/19/2008 3:39:24 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58

More gun laws now! The Brady Campaign says so!


3 posted on 02/19/2008 3:46:06 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Graybeard58

Added banglist


4 posted on 02/19/2008 3:49:06 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: Graybeard58
"Screech! Hate speech!"
5 posted on 02/19/2008 4:00:01 PM PST by pabianice
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To: Graybeard58
“If gun laws in fact worked, the sponsors of this type of legislation should have no difficulty drawing upon long lists of examples of crime rates reduced by such legislation. That they cannot do so after a century and a half of trying—that they must sweep under the rug the southern attempts at gun control in the 1870-1910 period, the northeastern attempts in the 1920-1939 period, the attempts at both Federal and State levels in 1965-1976—establishes the repeated, complete and inevitable failure of gun laws to control serious crime.”

-—Senator Orrin Hatch, Chairman, Senate Judiciary Committee Subcommittee on the Constitution, 97th Cong., 2d Sess., The Right to Keep and Bear Arms Committee
6 posted on 02/19/2008 4:26:25 PM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: Graybeard58

A seemingly normal young man...


Except for the satanist tattoos, the queerly plucked eyebrows, and the depression medication.


7 posted on 02/19/2008 5:34:37 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (I wish my old tagline could have defeated even more RINOs than it did.)
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It is my considered opinion that as long as our nation continues to writhe in our ever more Godless and nihilistic "culture", these slaughters will continue. No amount of gun bans, "sensitivity" trainings, mental screenings or anything else will fix this.

Moral character is what prevented these horrors occuring decades past when guns were much more prevalent in day-to-day life, and only a return to those values will restore our society to its former greatness.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

8 posted on 02/20/2008 6:10:21 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Joe Brower

Joe,
WELL SAID.

You took the words right out of my mouth.

Those Godless moral nihilists have stood the world on its head and all the rest of us are paying for it — with blood.

Our remaining freedoms will soon follow!


9 posted on 02/20/2008 6:14:18 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: Graybeard58

It’s been said before and worth saying again. Just because a liberal ideology has been PROVEN to be a complete and total failure is no reason for them to stop doing it.

Liberalism is a mental disease and is easily proven to be so. Insanity is when you do the same thing over and over and over and expect a different outcome.


10 posted on 02/20/2008 6:23:56 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Joe Brower
It is my considered opinion that as long as our nation continues to writhe in our ever more Godless and nihilistic "culture", these slaughters will continue.

i'd opine that no matter how Godless our society becomes, its more a matter of a general lack of fear of retribution, and the expanse of "gun free" zones that allow these slaughters to continue.
11 posted on 02/20/2008 6:28:48 AM PST by absolootezer0 (white male christian hetero married gun toting SUV driving motorcycle riding conservative smoker)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
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12 posted on 02/20/2008 6:29:20 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Joe Brower

I have a 17 year old daughter going to college next year. I have taken one of my bullet proof vests and started converting the inserts to fit inside her laptop bag so she can have some defense against these nuts.


13 posted on 02/20/2008 6:34:08 AM PST by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: Graybeard58
Arm everyone not currently subject to incarceration or commitment order. I'm too libertarian to use public money for this, but any private individual should be able to carry ANY firearm they want, any where they want, any time they want, as it is their Natural Right to do so.

If that statement gives you pause... check your premises.

"A man’s natural rights are his own, against the whole world; and any infringement of them is equally a crime, whether committed by one man, or by millions; whether committed by one man, calling himself a robber, (or any other name indicating his true character,) or by millions, calling themselves a government." — Lysander Spooner, No Treason: The Constitution of No Authority (1867)

"Never forget, even for an instant, that the one and only reason anybody has for taking your gun away is to make you weaker than he is, so he can do something to you that you wouldn’t let him do if you were equipped to prevent it. This goes for burglars, muggers, and rapists, and even more so for policemen, bureaucrats, and politicians." — Aaron Zelman and L. Neil Smith, Hope (2001)

Every man, woman, and responsible child has an unalienable individual, civil, Constitutional, and human right to obtain, own, and carry, openly or concealed, any weapon -- rifle, shotgun, handgun, machinegun, anything -- any time, any place, without asking anyone's permission. - L. Neil Smith. The Atlanta Declaration

"The whole of the Bill (of Rights) is a declaration of the right of the people at large or considered as individuals .... It establishes some rights of the individual as unalienable and which consequently, no majority has a right to deprive them of." -- Albert Gallatin, New York Historical Society, October 7, 1789

14 posted on 02/20/2008 6:38:45 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Joe Brower
Not "my" Gods...

Havamal 38
A wayfarer should not walk unarmed,
But have his weapons to hand:
He knows not when he may need a spear,
Or what menace meet on the road.

But I agree with the rest of your thesis. There is an insanity loose in our body politic that is bent on killing us all.

15 posted on 02/20/2008 6:43:25 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Graybeard58
and 10 officers were in the hall within 90 seconds

First reports I heard was 2 minutes, now its down to 90 seconds ??? 10 officers???

what must the student/officer ratio be for this scenario???

If a 'police state' campus cant deter these nutbags, it should be obvious that the student body needs to have the means to react RIGHT NOW. anything less is just a political game betting with the lives of our people...

LFOD...

16 posted on 02/20/2008 6:46:18 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Vote for Principle to inspire Conservatives to service...LFOD...)
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To: Joe Brower
Some artist should make a school safety version of this parody poster.


17 posted on 02/20/2008 6:59:09 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Dead Corpse
DC, Im interested in your spiritual leanings.

I believe my God, Jesus, was not a pacifist. I read His lessons as picking the Right battles and fighting them 100% with The Father's blessings in confronting evil. Luke22:31-38 & 49-53 [KJV]

whether its individual or organised evil we face, I believe we have the responsibility to resist when the time is called for...LFOD...

18 posted on 02/20/2008 7:05:12 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Vote for Principle to inspire Conservatives to service...LFOD...)
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To: DocRock
Try to obtain some of the new level IV E-SAPI plates that are now being issued in Iraq and Afghanistan. They would be ideal for your purpose.
19 posted on 02/20/2008 7:42:40 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Gilbo_3
I'm an agnostic for the most part. The philosophy around self defense is rooted in the logic the non-initiation of force principle. Responding to an initiation of force is a Right of every sentient being.

Not resisting is inviting more of the same. Whether it's a mugger down the street, a Jihadi on a rampage, or a government exercising powers "We the People" did not give to them.

20 posted on 02/20/2008 7:53:45 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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