Posted on 02/17/2008 8:55:18 AM PST by Regulator
PRISTINA, Kosovo -- Kosovo's parliament declared the territory a nation on Sunday, mounting a historic bid to become an "independent and democratic state" backed by the U.S. and European allies but bitterly contested by Serbia and Russia.....
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—If you that THAT was funny, you must be keeled over in laughter by the Serbian claims that they “won’t start any violence”.—
Sadly, the native Serbs are grossly outnumberd by the Muslim squatters. They’re not in a position to start anything.
I’m kind of tired of hearing the argument that Kosovo is the “wellspring” of the Serbs. The Slavic people started to migrate to the Balkans in the 7th century, and there were already other people living in the Balkans before the Slavic invasions.
If the Serbs and the Slavs claim this land known as Dardania and Illyria to be theirs, I would like to know why the Greeks and the Romans did not mention the Slavs and name the lands with Slavic names in the Greek and Roman histories and maps. I guess what I am saying is that the Greek and Roman histories from 600-1000 years prior to the Slavic invasions do not attribute that part of the Balkans as the homeland of the Slavic Serbs.
If Russia attacks American troops in Kosovo, whose side will you be on? It’s us or them.
—Ummm ... in case you haven’t noticed, Russia and Serbia ARE the bullies in this case.—
Ok, if a bunch of bums and lowlifes decide to set up camp in your backyard, I guess that makes YOU the bully if you and your friends decide to run them off. Talk about fuzzy logic.
Of course, you’d accuse the Serbs of starting violence by daring to defend themselves, eh Dhimmi?
The Russians on the side of the Christians and NATO supporting the Jihadists.
And the Jihadists will be coming for you eventually.
—If Russia attacks American troops in Kosovo, whose side will you be on?—
The only way American troops and their NATO buddies will be “attacked” is if our “leaders” are stupid enough to order them to block the Russian advance. I can’t imagine such breathtaking foolishness, even from Washington D.C.
Anyone who supports Russian troops against Americans is guilty of treason. It’s that simple.
“Yup, the Serbs haven’t started their ethnic killings yet.”
I always say, anyone who talks about “ethnic” strife in the Balkans, relieves one of the responsibility of listening to them.
This is a religious war, and we’re backing the enemy.
Congrats, well said.
And it’s about damn time someone said it.
But we wouldn't let the south secede and here we are using our clout to let a predominately Muslim country halfway around the world declare independence.
It's a lose lose situation for us. As long as there is a Serb left in Kosovo, they will be at risk.
There's a discussion on the orthodox newsgroup with one saying that we (the west primarily made up of Protestants and Catholics) don't support the orthodox. Count me out on that one. They are also saying that the ethnic cleansing was media spin. I don't know. Naturally they would stick up for their own.
Why do we keep ticking off Russia? Do they have no rights or say in the the world theater? We made them get their missiles out of Cuba. How can we blame them for not liking our having troops in neighboring countries and aiding and abetting what goes against their national interests?
Locally we took in a bunch of displaced Albanians, haven't seen or heard squat about it since.
“Anyone who supports Russian troops against Americans is guilty of treason. It’s that simple.”
IOW...Anyone who supports the Christian defenders against the takeover of Islam is guilty of treason. It’s that simple.
...my, what a wonderful world we live in. What a great country we have become. Our country’s founders are rolling in their graves right now. Don’t forget to pay your Jizya, folks.
“Fight and slay the pagans [Christians] wherever ye find them and seize them, confine them, and lie in wait for them in every place of ambush” (Surah 9:5)
Surah (9:29) - “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”
LOL! I haven’t seen that one in a while.
“Locally we took in a bunch of displaced Albanians, haven’t seen or heard squat about it since.”
Oh, you will. It should go something like this...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1931582/posts
“The only foundation for a useful education in a republic is to be laid in religion. Without this there can be no virtue, and without virtue there can be no liberty, and liberty is the object and life of all republican governments.” - Benjamin Rush
On June 12, 1999, in the immediate aftermath of NATO's air war against Yugoslavia, a small contingent of Russian troops dashed to occupy the Pristina airfield in Kosovo. Clark was so anxious to stop the Russians that he ordered an airborne assault to confront these units-an order which could have unleashed the most frightening showdown with Moscow since the end of the Cold War. Hyperbole? You can decide. But British General Michael Jackson, the commander of the NATO international force K-FOR, told Clark: "Sir, I'm not starting WWIII for you," when refusing to accept his order to prevent Russian forces from taking over the airport.
After being rebuffed by Jackson, Clark, according to various media reports at the time, then ordered the American Admiral James Ellis to use Apache helicopters to occupy the airfield. Ellis didn't comply either. Had Clark's orders been followed, the subsequent NATO-negotiated compromise with the Russians might well have been undermined.
Europeans are easily identified by their genetics. If anything, the Dardanians and Illyrians are the remnants of the ancestor population of the Slavs, people who moved North from the area beginning about 12,000 years ago as the ice receded.
European males fall mainly into three Y-DNA categories: R1a, R1b, and I1. All of these genomic groups can be correlated with the area where they took refuge from the ice, and then where they migrated to as the ice receded.
Note that the Slavs are thought to have descended from the original European inhabitants of the areas later called Dardania and Illyria.
Europe has been European for at least 12,000 years, if not 30 to 50 thousand years.
Having said all that, it is also true that much of the populace of Asia Minor is to some extent related to the people who took refuge in the Ukrainian and Macedonian areas after the last glacial maximum (LGM). Islam didn't exist then; land bridges did; and migration was common. The current populations are a mix, and Islam was brought to many of them.
But that doesn't mean that we walk away and say it's all OK. The fact is, the Turks -- West Asians, but also to some extent related to Southern Europeans -- were converted to a ruthless, cruel "religion". And they are not walking away from the tenets of that religion, they are acting according to its dictates.
That is, for now, the main thing which must be strenuously opposed, even militarily.
NATO is on the wrong side in this war. Unfortunately, the Serbs didn't make themselves any friends with the massacres and the militias. Bad politics on their part.
But compared to the history of the Ottomans - which they all know - it's almost a credible response. Without a doubt, it would happen in the reverse situation, and probably will now that the Albanians are in full control.
Nice name. I remember it being used before...where was it from? Oh yeah.
“The 21st SS Division Skanderbeg was a Waffen SS Mountain division set up by Heinrich Himmler in March 1944, officially under the title of the 21st Waffen-Gebirgs Division der SS Skanderbeg (Albanische Nr. 1).”
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