Posted on 02/16/2008 12:29:39 PM PST by Drango
I started to make a list of Berkeley firms to boycott. I dont lightly believe that firms should pay the economic price for their city council views, but these firms are the enablers of one of the most repugnant regimes in our history and they unfortunately will be innocent casualties in the campaign. The city could not run without their tax dollars. Thus the boycott is on!
Obviously the German run Bayer, Berkeleys largest corporate job source is a top choice. http://www.bayerus.com/communities/berkeley/index.html
http://www.jettonconstruction.com/
www.ddorn.com
http://techsafety.com/contactus.html
http://studiobfilms.com/index.html
www.techsoft3d.com
http://www.techsoft3d.com/company/team.html (see bio on Brook Aaron Seaton)
http://www.sightspeed.com/company/our-team
OK how does a boycott work in practice? Lets use sightspeed as an example. First we dig for information. Here is what 10 minuets of hunting got me. What can others dig up? http://www.sightspeed.com/business/customers
dig, dig, dig http://digitalmediaupdate.blogspot.com/2007/10/sightspeed-open-for-business-sightspeed.html
Peter D. Csathy email: pcsathy@sightspeed.com; CEO of SightSpeed Inc. (www.sightspeed.com); . live .., in sunny San Diego, California; )
Second we email all the principals. A polite letter. State our case. Ask them to leave Berkeley. Repeat. CC to the Mayor, Chamber of Commerce and the press. We FIRMLY ask them to leave Berkeley. If there is no response we escalate. Email their customers. Escalate. Perhaps we put boots on the ground and picket.
Polite, dignified and steady pressure. Times 10. Times 100. If you are interested please bump this thread or Freepmail me. Eagles up.
A side note: I dont believe snark or extremely hot rhetoric will achieve what we want. Its fun to blow off steam here, real fun, but the economic boycott should be above that to achieve success. There are perhaps 100 other Berkeley firms that we need to email or call. From emailing Hilton and asking them to sell the Doubletree at the Berkeley marina, to asking associations not to have a meeting at HS Lordships http://www.hslordships.com/
Let's partner with MoveAmericaForward, GOE, HotAir, LGF and others. Whos in?
Imagine that, a proactive solution instead of wanting to inflict suffering and ruin on someone else. I like it.
Powerful statement.
SALUTE!
Can you post, or refer us to, the letter Mr. Garret sent that prompted your reply? The only letter I’ve found from Garret in this thread is Post #38 by Drango.
You can spin it however you want, but youre just all aflush at thought of causing strife and pain.
You'll forgive those of us who spent long periods of our lives living out under the stars or in 60 man squad bays if we don't think losing some money or a civilian job is a terrible tragedy. Do you carry on like this over everything? They did something distasteful. People who are disgusted by their behavior are giving them a consequence. Grow up.
That's the problem. The who did something distasteful are unlikely to suffer any consequences as they all live in Peidmont, not Berkeley. Those apt to suffer most are those who live in working class Oakland not Berkely.
I am more concerned about people like these:
I have done both in my life. The latter is more deserving of my concern. I don't really care of all of Berkeley winds up like this:
Semper Fidelis
Big Time Bump!
Well there you have it. You don't care, I care, and never the twain shall meet. Further discussion is pretty much pointless.
I think you'd be shocked to find out that the majority of people who'll be affected by the boycott don't get to vote in Berkely.
I'm questioning just how many FReepers live in or understand life in a metro area at this point. For a close to home example: Let's say the Dallas city council does something along these lines prompting a boycott. I would surely be effected by the boycott but I don't vote in Dallas because I live in Garland. My riding buddy would be directly affected since since he owns a Dallas business, but he lives in Plano, so he doesn't get to vote in Dallas either. Ditto for 3/4 of my friends here.
The irony is the Berkeley resident who owns a business in SF proper (which would be MOST Berkely business owners) would be unaffected by the boycott even though he/she did vote for the city council.
I can't abide a boycott that is indiscriminate in who it effects, guilty or not of the offense at hand.
That was an absolutely outstanding photo essay by zombie. The pictures were great, and comments even better. He/she is a natural at this! Thanks for posting the link.
As long as there is a hold on the bill, anonomyous or otherwise, it virtually means no progress will be forthcoming.
So we are still dealing with virtual talking points. There is no way the Rats will allow the bill to proceed in Pelouseys and Feinsteins home state. A blocked bill is nothing more than the power of suggestion, my initial premise.
bump
Sometimes the crap has to be rolled uphill.
Berkeley - The Birthplace of Free Speech Abuse
That may have been your "premise", but your statement was that the bill was "just a suggestion" which it was not.
Changing it to a premise now doesn't change the meaning in the post of yours to which I responded:
Legislation has been startedMy statement was posted to clear up that erroneous statement.
Correction!!! Legislation has been SUGGESTED.
As you so empathetically (with 3 !!!'s lol) "corrected" me, I found it necessary to post a rebuttal, especially as you told me to "Be sure to follow it through the process and see if it actually makes it anywhere."
I was glad to do so for you, as you didn't seem to know at the time that it had been introduced officially.
The rest of your post (not quoted here), well yea.
Pelosi and Feinstein have naturally expressed their negative attitude towards it. The usual "women and children hardest hit" spin.
I think some people are misguided in attacking the business community (which they do because they are an easy target) as opposed to the real culprits, the City Council. I think they do this because it makes them feel better, that they are “doing something” when in effect they are only spraying their ammo wildly around in the hopes of blindly hitting a target. Then they can come back here to FR and high five everyone for their small victory...while other bodies lie around them.
I don’t know the political make up of the Chamber of Commerce and business community, I would guess that as a group they are more conservative than the rest of the area, so to me this is a situation of a friendly fire attack. IMO, they are most likely people in that area for a partnership and/or cooperation on making something actually happen. Instead, people on this thread treat them as an enemy, attack them, call them names and try to force them into complying with their demands.
This is no way to win a battle like this. The goal should be the removal of these people from the Council at election time and to do that you need allies, not adversaries. Even if you are not successful, you can make them uncomfortable enough that they think twice next time before doing something boneheaded.
Unfortunately, the first reaction among many on FR is to simply and blindly lash out at anyone within arms reach. It’s easy, it’s cheap and you go home thinking you’ve accomplished something, but it really is a selfish reaction with a selfish goal...”make me feel good today”. Why is it the first thought is to destroy something rather than to fix it?
The hard part is thinking clearly and then soberly developing a long term strategy to achieve victory and following it even it takes months or years.
See my tagline.
My letter to the Chamber;
“Mr. Peterson,
The recent issue of the Marine recruitment station has obviously raised some tensions. Unfortunately, in their effort to show support for the military, some have focused their attacks on the CofC and called for not only boycotts but urging business to relocate out of Berkeley. These people are well intentioned but misguided. It would be far more productive to view the Chamber as an ally rather then an adversary.
I noticed your website has a note and pics about your support for the military. In an effort to move the ball in the proper direction would your Chamber members be willing to partner with these groups in an effort to more directly demostrate that support? I believe they would be willing to provide you with window posters that would say something to the effect “Members of the Miltary Welcome Here”. The language could be mutually agreed upon, for instance you may wish to add a little something to soften it for your more neutral customers like “No Matter Ones Position on the War in Iraq, Our Veterans and Military personnel deserve our respect for their sacrifice. They are welcome here”. You get my drift.
If you see some possibilities here, respond and I will help get the two sides together.
Cordially,”
Tis better to light one candle than curse the darkness.
Well said. Kudos.
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