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Limbaugh and Hannity can no longer be trusted.
ChristianPatriot.com ^ | Feb 13, 08 | Rev Bob Celeste

Posted on 02/14/2008 4:44:19 AM PST by SLB

John 15:18-25 Wednesday, February 13th, in the year of our Lord 2008 First let me say that I am not happy that I have been put in a position where I have to interrupt the series on the Gospel of John. But, what Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and other talking head pundits have done this year is not only beneath contempt and disgust but requires a Scriptural response as well. They have, in my humble opinion, proven who it is that they serve, and it is not the God of truth, but the father of all liars.

There was a time when one could turn the dial to Rush Limbaugh and/or Sean Hannity and expect to hear the truth. There was a time when listening to either got you an honest evaluation of individuals and especially candidates. That has changed, as both have proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that they can and will lie to prevent a true servant of Christ from occupying the oval office.

While I am disappointed in both of these legends in their own minds, I am especially upset at and disappointed in Rush Limbaugh. I would not have believed that he would sink to the level of vicious lies coming out of his mouth, making Romney (one of the most liberal governors in the history of the most liberal state of Massachusetts) a conservative, while at the same time doing everything in his power to paint Conservative Christian Pastor Mike Huckabee as a liberal. From Sean Hannity and others, I am disappointed, but not all that surprised. But in Rush, it goes past just disappointment. It goes to having to re-evaluate my thinking about his honesty over the years. With Rush it is more than simple disappointment, it borders on disgust. I always expected more of him, and I have been proven, by him, to be wrong in my high estimation of him and his honesty.

If I were talking to Pastor Mike Huckabee this morning, I would remind him of what Jesus warned us about in John 15:

If the world hate you, ye know that it hated Me before it hated you.

If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. Remember the word that I said unto you, ‘The servant is not greater than his Lord.’ Since they have persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they had kept My saying, they would keep yours also.

But all these things will they do unto you for My name's sake, because they know not Him that sent Me. If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no covering for their sin. He that hates Me hates My Father also.

If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both Me and My Father. But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, THEY HATED ME WITHOUT A CAUSE. (John 15:18-25 ACP/KJV)

Those who serve satan hate Pastor Huckabee because they hate Christ. Had they never read or even claimed to read the word of God, they would be blameless, but since they claim to be pro-life Christian conservatives who have read the word of God, their sin lies at their door and within their hearts.

But, I would continue and remind Pastor Huckabee of this passage as well:

And He (God) said, I will certainly return unto thee according to the time of life; and, lo, Sarah thy wife shall have a son.

And Sarah heard it in the tent door, which was behind him. Now Abraham (age 99) and Sarah (age 89) were old and well stricken in age; and it ceased to be with Sarah after the manner of women. Therefore Sarah laughed within herself, saying, “After I am waxed old shall I have pleasure, my lord being old also?”

And the LORD said unto Abraham, Wherefore did Sarah laugh, saying, ‘Shall I of a surety bear a child, which am old?’

Is any thing too hard for the LORD?

At the time appointed I will return unto thee, according to the time of life, and Sarah shall have a son! (Genesis 18:10-14 ACP/KJV)

Then I would ask Pastor Mike; “Reverend Mike, which do you think it would be harder for God to do, make you President or cause an 89 year old woman to not only give birth to a perfectly happy, healthy baby boy, but breast feed him and cause her to live till he was 37 years old?”

To all of you who are getting a bit disappointed and down at the mouth, let me remind you of how God likes to fight political wars.

Then Jerubbaal, who is Gideon, and all the people that were with him, rose up early, and pitched beside the well of Harod: so that the host of the Midianites were on the north side of them, by the hill of Moreh, in the valley. And the LORD said unto Gideon, The people that are with thee are too many for Me to give the Midianites into their hands, lest Israel vaunt themselves against Me, saying, “Mine own hand hath saved me.” Now therefore go to, proclaim in the ears of the people, saying, “Whosoever is fearful and afraid, let him return and depart early from mount Gilead.”

And there returned of the people twenty and two thousand; and there remained ten thousand. And the LORD said unto Gideon, The people are yet too many; bring them down unto the water, and I will try them for thee there: and it shall be, that of whom I say unto thee, This shall go with thee, the same shall go with thee; and of whomsoever I say unto thee, This shall not go with thee, the same shall not go.

So he(Gideon) brought down the people unto the water: and the LORD said unto Gideon, Every one that lappeth of the water with his tongue, as a dog lappeth, him shalt thou set by himself; likewise every one that boweth down upon his knees to drink. And the number of them that lapped, putting their hand to their mouth, were three hundred men: but all the rest of the people bowed down upon their knees to drink water. And the LORD said unto Gideon, By the three hundred men that lapped will I save you, and deliver the Midianites into thine hand: and let all the other people go every man unto his place.

And he(Gideon) divided the three hundred men into three companies, and he put a trumpet in every man's hand, with pitchers, and lamps within the pitchers. And he said unto them, “Look on me, and do likewise: and, behold, when I come to the outside of the camp, it shall be that, as I do, so shall ye do. When I blow with a trumpet, I and all that are with me, then blow ye the trumpets also on every side of all the camp, and say, The sword of the LORD, and of Gideon.”

So Gideon, and the hundred men that were with him, came unto the outside of the camp in the beginning of the middle watch; and they had but newly set the watch: and they blew the trumpets, and brake the pitchers that were in their hands. And the three companies blew the trumpets, and brake the pitchers, and held the lamps in their left hands, and the trumpets in their right hands to blow withal: and they cried, “The sword of the LORD, and of Gideon.”

And they stood every man in his place round about the camp: and all the host ran, and cried, and fled. And the three hundred blew the trumpets, and the LORD set every man's sword against his fellow, even throughout all the host: and the host fled to Bethshittah in Zererath, and to the border of Abelmeholah, unto Tabbath. (Judges 7:1-7 and 16-22 ACP/KJV)

Mike, If I’m right, you still have too many working for you and not enough against you for God to deliver the presidency into your hands. You still have to many Bob Celestes and not enough Rush Limbaughs and Sean Hannitys. For I do still believe that God is going to cause this election in November to be between you, a servant of the most High God and whichever of the two servants of satan that the democrats choose to run against you. I believe that this fight between you and McCain is nothing more than a warm up for the big fight of good against pure evil in November.

The Lord be with you my brother and may He give courage and strength to the men around you, let they, you, and I obey the command of the Lord in Job 40:7a. “Gird up thy loins now like a man”

And now, God willing I can get back to the Gospel of John.

And Lord, please let it be with those who attack our brother Mike as they try to make it be to our brother Mike. In the name of the Lord Christ Jesus I pray. Amen.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2008; apostasy; dominionism; election; hannity; huckabee; rush; socialgospel; talkradio
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To: WildcatClan; Drumbo
One may disagree with ones wife, but that doesn’t mean he fears her. Well, perhaps shortly thereafter, but not at the time of the disagreement. :) Oh, boy. I just got a great big case of the postiphobias. I'm sitting on my hands. ;o)

And my paranoiaphobia says Drumbo is laughing right about now. No ...?
241 posted on 02/14/2008 9:39:46 AM PST by Titan Magroyne ("Shorn, dumb and bleating is no way to go through life, son." Yeah, close enough.)
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To: Just mythoughts

You’re right.. I don’t understand the fairness doctrine but I do know how to ride a pogo stick.


242 posted on 02/14/2008 9:46:57 AM PST by Broker (Grandpa Petti Bones wants to know.)
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To: wideawake; onedoug

“fans of the Squirrel Gourmet”

LOL


243 posted on 02/14/2008 9:49:50 AM PST by windcliff
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To: SLB

>>>...while at the same time doing everything in his power to paint Conservative Christian Pastor Mike Huckabee as a liberal.<<<

This statement alone proves “Pastor” Bob is no conservative.


244 posted on 02/14/2008 9:51:36 AM PST by PhilipFreneau (The president cannot let a piece of paper by a bureaucrat determine what his actions must be - FT)
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To: cinives

Thank you for the psychograph. You expressed my beliefs in a thorough and thoughtful manner.


245 posted on 02/14/2008 9:52:43 AM PST by Broker (Grandpa Petti Bones wants to know.)
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To: SLB
The only real conservative candidate was and is Ron Paul.. ALL others are socialists or tolerate socialism.. Ron Paul can not be elected true but neither can John McLaim..

NO conservative can be elected this cycle.. America WANTs Universal Health Care.. America has gone a little nutty.. Much as the republican party has.. McLaim is OWNED outright by George Soros and the Tides Foundation with the Rockefellers to boot..

McLaim said Hillary would make a good President..
And he WILL get his wish.. Oh! and George Soros's as well..

246 posted on 02/14/2008 10:01:53 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: SLB

Well, then....If Jesus has made His endorsement, who are we to argue?


247 posted on 02/14/2008 10:02:17 AM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Nope. Not gonna do it.)
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To: Broker

Glad to help :)


248 posted on 02/14/2008 10:05:55 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: SLB

I don’t trust anyone. I listen to Rush and the others, but my decisions are not based on what they say.

I did the research last summer and found the candidate I agreed with. He dropped out though, and since I agree with none of the people who are left, I will have to choose lesser of evils-especially since Obama could be the other party’s nominee.

All of the people left in the running have major drawbacks.

I am not basing my vote on what the talking heads tell me to do. I don’t care what anyone says at a debate. What really matters is the record.

I’m a believer, but I don’t put much value into what any of the preachers are saying, because the most important thing to me as a believer is not what the preacher says-I look to the bible. We are to live according to His word, not anyone elses.

Both of the people on our side have major drawbacks. If Huckabee was the nominee I might feel just a tiny bit better about my vote, but that’s not saying a whole lot.

It will likely be McCain. In the end, those of us who vote for him are likely doing so under duress. I believe the whole process was engineered this time around in order to make that so. Given that, I feel that daily prayer for the safety of our nation is the most critical thing we can do at this point, and probably the only thing we can rely on to truly make things better.


249 posted on 02/14/2008 10:33:29 AM PST by Califreak (Hangin' with Hunter-under the bus "Dread and Circuses")
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To: windcliff

“Squirrel, Everett?”


250 posted on 02/14/2008 10:38:15 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Drumbo

LOL! I posted what I did before working my way to your latest comment.

“No, she really doesn’t need to learn how to shoot a gun.”


251 posted on 02/14/2008 11:02:16 AM PST by Titan Magroyne ("Shorn, dumb and bleating is no way to go through life, son." Yeah, close enough.)
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To: SLB
they can and will lie to prevent a true servant of Christ from occupying the oval office.

..and who says any of the candidates we have right now are 'true servants of God'? Just because someone uses God's name often, doesn't make him a servant of God. I seem to recall someone in Acts called Simon of Gitta who loved to use Jesus' name.

252 posted on 02/14/2008 11:14:09 AM PST by mnehring (Make your plans to fit the circumstances. - General George S. Patton, Jr)
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To: olezip
He pays the price because he is feared and hated by all.

Especially by the voices in his head.

253 posted on 02/14/2008 11:15:26 AM PST by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: SLB

If you don’t like what Rush says, don’t listen to him.


254 posted on 02/14/2008 11:19:03 AM PST by ditto h
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To: SLB
If the world hate you, ye know that it hated Me before it hated you.

No one is hated as much as Rush is. Huckabee is a RINO--too conservative to be a Democrat, but liberal enough to want to be liked by everyone. Quoting scripture to "cry me a river" for a politician who lost the campaign is unreasonable.

255 posted on 02/14/2008 11:48:39 AM PST by DallasDeb ((a.k.a. USAFA2006Mom!))
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To: rayincolorado

I, too, am a bible believing, church going, Christian who sings a lot in churches. I KNOW what “Christian” is supposed to mean. I don’t understand where this “REV” is coming from. I never believed the Huckster. I believe he is no different from all other politicians who will say whatever he needs to say to get elected. And I disagree with him going into church pulpits to garner political points from gullible Christians. I find that repulsive and opportunistic. Yes, we are NOT electing a pastor, but a President! He doesn’t have to be of my faith. He should govern as one who looks kindly upon Christians, and doesn’t interfere with our expressions of faith to the Lord. I don’t even know what faith Ronald Reagan was. He was supportive of Christian values. That’s what’s important. And by the way, I voted for that Morman, Mitt Romney. Rush and Hannity are right about this man. I find them totally consistant on their views and support their right to their opinions. I happen to agree with Rush 95% of the time and Hannity 98% of the time. Tell me who else you put in their place to give us the truth. CBS, NBC, CNN, ABC, NPR?....... They are all in bed with the Democrats and have sold their soul to Barack or Hillary. They are who you should be castigating, not Rush and Hannity.


256 posted on 02/14/2008 12:07:44 PM PST by rtbwood
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To: SLB
Well, to be fair, Huckabee is a nanny stater. He favors and has passed bills in AK that restrict free choice, self responsibility, and massive taxing of those who chose to smoke or use the so called trans fat. Not to mention seeking to have schools monitor the lunchboxes of school children.

Those positions are not conservative. And neither is global warming, which is intended solely to tax people in order to put in place mandatory charitable contributions. Charity is a wonderful thing, but the Bible NEVER espoused forced charity. Neither is it Conservative to have the government regulating anything that should be left to property rights and freedom of association, to mention a few.

I would love to see Huckabee do a U-turn on all these issues, but I haven’t seen it.

257 posted on 02/14/2008 12:50:38 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: SLB; HarleyD; TommyDale; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; shaggy eel; jumpdrive; Calvert Cliffs Cafe; ...

If he likes Huckabee he’s just as clueless as the ones he castigates. Huckabee is a social gospel liberal who loves purpose driven, one of the greatest deluding influences on the church today. Get a clue.


258 posted on 02/14/2008 4:10:10 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: skipper18

I hope you’re not serious. Yes it’s true, but it’s often used as an excuse to be a complete moron and justify hateful preaching of law (rather than gospel)... (as opposed to ‘sweet’ preaching of law like Rick Warren and Joel Osteen et al do)


259 posted on 02/14/2008 4:13:31 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: SLB
...both have proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that they can and will lie to prevent a true servant of Christ from occupying the oval office...I am especially upset at and disappointed in Rush Limbaugh...doing everything in his power to paint Conservative Christian Pastor Mike Huckabee as a liberal.

Explain to me why Huckabee believes citizens owe 30% to Caesar, and how he still ranks as a conservative (let alone a Christian) afterwards...

260 posted on 02/14/2008 5:05:59 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Therefore the prudent keep silent at that time, for it is an evil time." - Amos 5:13)
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