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Limbaugh and Hannity can no longer be trusted.
ChristianPatriot.com ^ | Feb 13, 08 | Rev Bob Celeste

Posted on 02/14/2008 4:44:19 AM PST by SLB

John 15:18-25 Wednesday, February 13th, in the year of our Lord 2008 First let me say that I am not happy that I have been put in a position where I have to interrupt the series on the Gospel of John. But, what Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and other talking head pundits have done this year is not only beneath contempt and disgust but requires a Scriptural response as well. They have, in my humble opinion, proven who it is that they serve, and it is not the God of truth, but the father of all liars.

There was a time when one could turn the dial to Rush Limbaugh and/or Sean Hannity and expect to hear the truth. There was a time when listening to either got you an honest evaluation of individuals and especially candidates. That has changed, as both have proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that they can and will lie to prevent a true servant of Christ from occupying the oval office.

While I am disappointed in both of these legends in their own minds, I am especially upset at and disappointed in Rush Limbaugh. I would not have believed that he would sink to the level of vicious lies coming out of his mouth, making Romney (one of the most liberal governors in the history of the most liberal state of Massachusetts) a conservative, while at the same time doing everything in his power to paint Conservative Christian Pastor Mike Huckabee as a liberal. From Sean Hannity and others, I am disappointed, but not all that surprised. But in Rush, it goes past just disappointment. It goes to having to re-evaluate my thinking about his honesty over the years. With Rush it is more than simple disappointment, it borders on disgust. I always expected more of him, and I have been proven, by him, to be wrong in my high estimation of him and his honesty.

If I were talking to Pastor Mike Huckabee this morning, I would remind him of what Jesus warned us about in John 15:

If the world hate you, ye know that it hated Me before it hated you.

If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. Remember the word that I said unto you, ‘The servant is not greater than his Lord.’ Since they have persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they had kept My saying, they would keep yours also.

But all these things will they do unto you for My name's sake, because they know not Him that sent Me. If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no covering for their sin. He that hates Me hates My Father also.

If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both Me and My Father. But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, THEY HATED ME WITHOUT A CAUSE. (John 15:18-25 ACP/KJV)

Those who serve satan hate Pastor Huckabee because they hate Christ. Had they never read or even claimed to read the word of God, they would be blameless, but since they claim to be pro-life Christian conservatives who have read the word of God, their sin lies at their door and within their hearts.

But, I would continue and remind Pastor Huckabee of this passage as well:

And He (God) said, I will certainly return unto thee according to the time of life; and, lo, Sarah thy wife shall have a son.

And Sarah heard it in the tent door, which was behind him. Now Abraham (age 99) and Sarah (age 89) were old and well stricken in age; and it ceased to be with Sarah after the manner of women. Therefore Sarah laughed within herself, saying, “After I am waxed old shall I have pleasure, my lord being old also?”

And the LORD said unto Abraham, Wherefore did Sarah laugh, saying, ‘Shall I of a surety bear a child, which am old?’

Is any thing too hard for the LORD?

At the time appointed I will return unto thee, according to the time of life, and Sarah shall have a son! (Genesis 18:10-14 ACP/KJV)

Then I would ask Pastor Mike; “Reverend Mike, which do you think it would be harder for God to do, make you President or cause an 89 year old woman to not only give birth to a perfectly happy, healthy baby boy, but breast feed him and cause her to live till he was 37 years old?”

To all of you who are getting a bit disappointed and down at the mouth, let me remind you of how God likes to fight political wars.

Then Jerubbaal, who is Gideon, and all the people that were with him, rose up early, and pitched beside the well of Harod: so that the host of the Midianites were on the north side of them, by the hill of Moreh, in the valley. And the LORD said unto Gideon, The people that are with thee are too many for Me to give the Midianites into their hands, lest Israel vaunt themselves against Me, saying, “Mine own hand hath saved me.” Now therefore go to, proclaim in the ears of the people, saying, “Whosoever is fearful and afraid, let him return and depart early from mount Gilead.”

And there returned of the people twenty and two thousand; and there remained ten thousand. And the LORD said unto Gideon, The people are yet too many; bring them down unto the water, and I will try them for thee there: and it shall be, that of whom I say unto thee, This shall go with thee, the same shall go with thee; and of whomsoever I say unto thee, This shall not go with thee, the same shall not go.

So he(Gideon) brought down the people unto the water: and the LORD said unto Gideon, Every one that lappeth of the water with his tongue, as a dog lappeth, him shalt thou set by himself; likewise every one that boweth down upon his knees to drink. And the number of them that lapped, putting their hand to their mouth, were three hundred men: but all the rest of the people bowed down upon their knees to drink water. And the LORD said unto Gideon, By the three hundred men that lapped will I save you, and deliver the Midianites into thine hand: and let all the other people go every man unto his place.

And he(Gideon) divided the three hundred men into three companies, and he put a trumpet in every man's hand, with pitchers, and lamps within the pitchers. And he said unto them, “Look on me, and do likewise: and, behold, when I come to the outside of the camp, it shall be that, as I do, so shall ye do. When I blow with a trumpet, I and all that are with me, then blow ye the trumpets also on every side of all the camp, and say, The sword of the LORD, and of Gideon.”

So Gideon, and the hundred men that were with him, came unto the outside of the camp in the beginning of the middle watch; and they had but newly set the watch: and they blew the trumpets, and brake the pitchers that were in their hands. And the three companies blew the trumpets, and brake the pitchers, and held the lamps in their left hands, and the trumpets in their right hands to blow withal: and they cried, “The sword of the LORD, and of Gideon.”

And they stood every man in his place round about the camp: and all the host ran, and cried, and fled. And the three hundred blew the trumpets, and the LORD set every man's sword against his fellow, even throughout all the host: and the host fled to Bethshittah in Zererath, and to the border of Abelmeholah, unto Tabbath. (Judges 7:1-7 and 16-22 ACP/KJV)

Mike, If I’m right, you still have too many working for you and not enough against you for God to deliver the presidency into your hands. You still have to many Bob Celestes and not enough Rush Limbaughs and Sean Hannitys. For I do still believe that God is going to cause this election in November to be between you, a servant of the most High God and whichever of the two servants of satan that the democrats choose to run against you. I believe that this fight between you and McCain is nothing more than a warm up for the big fight of good against pure evil in November.

The Lord be with you my brother and may He give courage and strength to the men around you, let they, you, and I obey the command of the Lord in Job 40:7a. “Gird up thy loins now like a man”

And now, God willing I can get back to the Gospel of John.

And Lord, please let it be with those who attack our brother Mike as they try to make it be to our brother Mike. In the name of the Lord Christ Jesus I pray. Amen.


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To: Mr. Brightside
I did not know that, but anyone who believes that is not qualified to be a pastor in my opinion. The KJV is not the poorest translation but it is one of the poorer ones. Many Manuscripts have been discovered in the centuries between the 1600’s and present, for this reason modern translators had an advantage over the translators of the Authorized version. The Political duress of translating at the behest of the head of the Church of England created an environment of fear that led to some very poor translating and it also caused the translators to transliterate a number of words. Those transliterated words continue to plague the church today with much devision. If I had known that this gentlemen took that position I would not have read the first word of the article. A person in his position that takes the position that he KJV is the only translation that Christians should use is suffering from self inflicted ignorance in my opinion.

God Bless you my friend

221 posted on 02/14/2008 7:04:57 AM PST by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: SLB

Ok, pastor, if “the world” is supposed to hate Huckabee as it hated Jesus, why would you expect “the world” to VOTE for Huckabee?


222 posted on 02/14/2008 7:05:14 AM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Notary Sojac
Well, If God’s going to personally anoint the candidate this year, we’ve certainly wasted a lot of time and money doing all that silly voting stuff.

God says in the bible that He raises up kings (rulers in general) and nations,and he brings down kings and Nations, but many times He doesn't raise up or bring down the kings who we would think He should. I have no idea what He wants to do with Huckleberry, but if the polls and delegate counts are correct He will need to perform a major miracle to raise him up to the White House.

OTOH, Rush and Hannity aren't lesser deities who can impose their will on the nation the way that only God can, they're just gods in their own minds who think their opinions are always correct and couldn't possibly be anything but annointed by God Himself. As for Rush and Huck, Huck committed the unpardonable sin of raising taxes in AR so he's forever damned to the nether regions of hades, and as for Hannity, Huck probably didn't pay the obligatory homage to Hannity's Fox News star status so he's off the A list with him as well. Nevermind that most of the prominent GOP hopefuls committed equally wicked or worse sins such as Mitt's multiple sins as governor of one of the most heavily taxed and liberal-dominated states in the union, or Rudy's socially liberal abominations n ultra-liberal NYC, they were OK because they weren't weighted down with all that bothersome baggage that the pesky evangelicals and gun rights supporters insist on in a nominee such as a pro-life and anti-gay "rights" record, or an unbroken record of supporting the 2nd Amendment rights of gun owners. I wasn't particularly put off by either Rush or Hannity's obvious disdain for Huck because by the time I got my chance to vote the man I supported, Hunter, and my 2nd choice, Fred, were already eliminated, and I voted for Hunter anyway just because he was still on my ballot.

Rush claims to be a pro-life, anti-gay "rights" social conservative, but it doesn't take many hours of listening to his daily self-aggrandising rants to learn that his primary interest is keeping as much of his vast wealth in his and his multimillionaire associates's investment portfolios and away from the tax collector as possible, and just enough lip service to social policy to keep us whiny evangelicals and gun rights yokels listening and his ratings high enough to demand the kind of compensation he gets for his daily 3 hours of self adoration.

Personally, I stopped listening to Rush's show when it became as much a recounting of his close relationships and association with prominent politicians, popular entertainers, and sports personalities on golf courses and stadium boxes at major sporting events as it is a political commentary and call-in show. IMH and insignificant opinion Rush is just a small town boy who made good in the big city and has become a self important political mover and shaker in his own mind. As for Hannity's mind, I doubt that he has enough mental capacity to spare any room in there for a cogent thought about who or what he is or aspires to be.

All this is just my opinion of course, and doesn't necessarily represent the views or opinions of any sponsor.

223 posted on 02/14/2008 7:08:50 AM PST by epow (I would rather lose in a cause that will some day win, than win in a cause that will some day lose!)
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To: SLB

LOL

This election cycle is really reaching the heights of absurdity.

Now, Rush Limbaugh is a liberal, and some guy from who-knows-where claims Huckabee is a conservative!

Just when you thought you heard it all...


224 posted on 02/14/2008 7:16:57 AM PST by B Knotts (Newt^H^H^H^HTancredo^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HFred^H^H^H^HRomney^H^H^H^H^H^HRon Paul '08)
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To: epow
that his primary interest is keeping as much of his vast wealth in his and his multimillionaire associates's investment portfolios and away from the tax collector as possible.

A worthy goal that I emulate. Interesting that this is a comdemnation of character on Free Republic. What are we coming to? Populist Free Republic web site based on class and wealth warfare?

225 posted on 02/14/2008 7:19:24 AM PST by listenhillary (They should have hung the first person that said "there ought to be a law...")
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To: Drumbo

LOL! Phobophobe, when you have nothing to fear but fear itself. Actually, it is those tacking phobe and phobia onto anything and everything because those to whom the description is to be applied, simply disagrees with you. One may disagree with ones wife, but that doesn’t mean he fears her. Well, perhaps shortly thereafter, but not at the time of the disagreement. :)


226 posted on 02/14/2008 7:19:42 AM PST by WildcatClan (The epitome of irony is that few entities exist, less common, than common-sense.)
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To: G Larry

How do you answer the view that Huck’s liberalism in AR is a result of AR’s long-time liberalism. It was liberalism demanded by liberals at the STATE level, but he would not necessarily be liberal at the national level.


227 posted on 02/14/2008 7:20:14 AM PST by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: SLB

Pastor Bob,

Stick with the Gospel of John.

Sincerely,
jw


228 posted on 02/14/2008 7:24:10 AM PST by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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To: SLB

Sure. The Huckster’s greed, graft, and lying are such “conservative values”.

Rush is right.


229 posted on 02/14/2008 7:29:06 AM PST by Politicalmom (The Huckster is worse than McCain. I am fairly sure McCain won't steal the White House furniture.)
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To: SLB

I don’t think some “Reverends” can be trusted either.


230 posted on 02/14/2008 7:29:07 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: listenhillary
What are we coming to? Populist Free Republic web site based on class and wealth warfare?

I certainly hope not, but I think that FR should allow room for opinions that more or less agree with a little bit of what the site's owner apparently places a high value on and not totally on the also important fiscal policies and accumulation of wealth and social status emphasized by some posters..

231 posted on 02/14/2008 7:37:47 AM PST by epow (I would rather lose in a cause that will some day win, than win in a cause that will some day lose!)
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To: SLB

Lovely - where do I sign up for the “Theocracy ‘08” party?


232 posted on 02/14/2008 7:38:59 AM PST by BlueNgold (... Feed the tree!)
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To: WildcatClan

I get your point and have often maintained that I do not fear homosexuals, but simply dislike their lifestyle and agenda. The nomenclature of your post was just too funny to let pass. As for MrsDrumbo, there is an aspect of fear in disputing She Who Must Be Obeyed.

FRegards


233 posted on 02/14/2008 7:42:13 AM PST by Drumbo ("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats." - Jubal Harshaw (Robert A. Heinlein))
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To: SLB

Pastor Bob is a fool and so are you. Keep on going down your primrose path to elitism and socialism while hiding behind your Bible. You can count me out.


234 posted on 02/14/2008 7:47:18 AM PST by oldvike
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To: SLB
What a joke.
RL and SH are radio talk show hosts. They are damn good at their jobs, hence the size of their audiences.
They are not pastors or religious leaders.
The author of this article really needs to get over himself.
235 posted on 02/14/2008 7:47:41 AM PST by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: ExGeeEye

But Rush said none of them are conservatives...it is not correct to state that Rush made Romney a conservative. That is a mischaracterization which is necessary to support this silly thesis.

I am being told from all sides that if I do not agree with one group or another, I am promoting evil. This is the reason we are so divided as a country...it’s my way or the highway...all of this tripe is Brave Sierra...


236 posted on 02/14/2008 8:06:51 AM PST by LachlanMinnesota (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Cagey

Rod...!!


237 posted on 02/14/2008 8:11:27 AM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Theodore R.

I think I found the answer in your tagline....


238 posted on 02/14/2008 8:51:11 AM PST by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Bob Celeste is a false teacher and member of a cult. He is headed to hell himself. Great article on the KJVO crowd:

http://www.members.aol.com/pilgrimpub/unlearnd.htm


239 posted on 02/14/2008 9:13:40 AM PST by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgement has come.)
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To: LS

See post##239


240 posted on 02/14/2008 9:25:01 AM PST by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgement has come.)
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