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McCain: Not the Choice of Red States
Feb. 10, 2008 | Jack Black

Posted on 02/10/2008 4:18:38 PM PST by Jack Black

I was wondering how McCain was doing in the Red States, so I marked up a 2004 Electoral College map with a "W" in every state he won, and a "L" in every state someone else won. (I didn't bother marking the Blue States.)

McCain's not very popular in states where Republicans actually deliver electoral votes to the President. He has lost far more than he has won. Here is my rather simple, but illuminating map.



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If nothing else Republican states are being asked to support a candidate beloved in the Blue States. Yet, it is very unlikely that McCain will carry any of those blue states. So essentially we have New York and New Jersey Republicans telling voters in Alaska and Utah who to vote for.

This goes a log way towards explaining the anger that is out there about this process.

1 posted on 02/10/2008 4:18:39 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black

That’s our choices now, Worse, Getting Worse, and the Worst.


2 posted on 02/10/2008 4:20:24 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Jack Black

Yes, I’ve pointed this out on a number of radio programs. The fact he has a lot of support in New York and Rhode and Illinois doesn’t really count for much, does it.


3 posted on 02/10/2008 4:20:30 PM PST by MSF BU (++)
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To: Jack Black
Well put.

By the way, you might want to update your profile.

You aren’t supposed to be posting anymore, otherwise!

4 posted on 02/10/2008 4:21:17 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: All
I think this is a damn shame!

Senator McCain I offer you the support you deserve, sir:

here........ :)

5 posted on 02/10/2008 4:23:15 PM PST by ElPatriota (Duncan Hunter 08 -- I am proud to support this man for my president and may be Huck :))
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To: Jack Black

Completely bogus analysis. Does that also mean that Duncan Hunter is not supported in RED states, since he lost all of them? See what I mean...


6 posted on 02/10/2008 4:25:45 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: ElPatriota

LOL!

Anyway, McCain will lose. Dems are far to excited and are voting in much larger numbers than the GOP. Independents are leaning Obama. The media’s love affair with McCain is already starting to end.

Focus on House races now and a conservative candidate for 2012 folks


7 posted on 02/10/2008 4:25:57 PM PST by Def Conservative (If conservatives lose the primary battle, we should write in Reagan in November.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

Get all your foot stomping out now, kids...because when it comes down to it, and you hear how absolutely frightening Obama actually is, you’ll go and vote for the devil you know because you love this Country...don’t tell me you don’t. Obama is a very, very scary prospect.


8 posted on 02/10/2008 4:25:58 PM PST by Hildy (You know you're in love when you can't fall asleep cause reality is finally better than your dreams)
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To: Hildy

I dunno, most people here aren’t like the Dems (party over principle). We won’t sit home, we’ll be campaigning like hell for conservatives in the House and Senate to fight Obama’s liberal policies every step of the way (something they won’t do to McCain’s liberal policies).


10 posted on 02/10/2008 4:27:34 PM PST by Def Conservative (If conservatives lose the primary battle, we should write in Reagan in November.)
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To: Hildy
Get all your foot stomping out now, kids...because when it comes down to it, and you hear how absolutely frightening Obama actually is, you’ll go and vote for the devil you know because you love this Country...don’t tell me you don’t.

Well, thanks for the condescending words, but there's a 0% chance I'll vote for McCain. Third party, here I come.

11 posted on 02/10/2008 4:27:39 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Jack Black
You must not have gotten the memo from McCain's mother. You'll have to hold your nose and vote for him because you have nowhere else to go.

The GOP has moved so far to the left they are in bed with Soros et.al., just like the Democrats, and they really don't care if you vote for him or the Democrat

12 posted on 02/10/2008 4:29:03 PM PST by penowa
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To: NittanyLion

Thank you for standing for principle sir.


13 posted on 02/10/2008 4:29:41 PM PST by Def Conservative (If conservatives lose the primary battle, we should write in Reagan in November.)
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..So essentially we have New York and New Jersey Republicans telling voters in Alaska and Utah who to vote for...

You know if the RNC were NASA, and the primary results were a ROCKET crashing after lift off (abysmal failure), you would bet there would be a congress investigation / MSM circus, reaping them to pieces..

And yet... Who is a making the big noise to get answers / changes from the Republican leadership?

Are the accountable to anyone?... at all?....:)

14 posted on 02/10/2008 4:30:10 PM PST by ElPatriota (Duncan Hunter 08 -- I am proud to support this man for my president and may be Huck :))
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To: AmericaUnited

No match. Duncan Hunter won nothing, lost red, blue and in between. This is a picture of what McCain carried, the would-be nominee.


15 posted on 02/10/2008 4:31:51 PM PST by penowa
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If you're like me, you pretty much see conservatism in terms of black and white.  You've voted for Republican candidates your whole life.  Over the years, while doing so, you have started to have concerns that the politicans you were voting for were becoming more and more leftist.  You stood by the party because not to do so would have been catastrophic to the nation you love.  For some strange reason the party felt compelled to assure you of that, even though it claimed it's candidates shared your views.

At varying points in time, we came to realize the party was no longer interested in the advancement of Conservatism.  It was interested on holding certain political positions, but the agenda it passed bore little connection to Conservatism.  Even when it held the majority of the Senate, the House and the White House, it failed to promote Conservatism while the sun shone.

Now we are faced with a situation this year that makes it abundantly clear, that just about every person of respect in the party, or at least the ones we had respected, have come to the conlusion that the standard bearer this year is one of us.  Only he isn't.

And now the time has come to acknowledge what the party is doing to conservatism.  Are we going to stand for his?  Isn't it time we put an end to it?

Isn't it time to face the reality and quit enabling this type of behavior, with our votes.

16 posted on 02/10/2008 4:31:56 PM PST by DoughtyOne (That's right McStain, you'll get my vote when you peel it from my cold dead fingers.)
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To: NittanyLion

egomaniac.


17 posted on 02/10/2008 4:32:49 PM PST by Hildy (You know you're in love when you can't fall asleep cause reality is finally better than your dreams)
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To: AmericaUnited

What it does mean, is that conservatives don’t support either McCain or Hunter enough to push them over the Democrat voters in those given states.

Someone else could turn those voters on enough to bother going to the polls, though.


18 posted on 02/10/2008 4:33:30 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: Jack Black
You went to a lot of trouble to illustrate a bogus point.

What matters is what states McCain will win on election day, and he will carry all of the states won by W and more.

Clinton/Obama are unelectable Marxists.

19 posted on 02/10/2008 4:34:24 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: AmericaUnited
Completely bogus analysis. Does that also mean that Duncan Hunter is not supported in RED states, since he lost all of them? See what I mean...

I'm sorry, I'm totally missing your point. To answer your question; YES, the fact that Duncan Hunter lost in every state means he was not supported in the Red States. He was not the choice of ANY state for POTUS.

In the same way John McCain has failed to win the vast majority of Red States. It is completely NON-BOGUS to point this out.

That doesn't mean that 1) John McCain can't win some or all of these states in the 2008 general election, he may. 2)That he can't win the POTUS contest while losing some of these states, by picking up blue states. He may be able to redraw the electoral map.

Still I think the conclusion I've drawn, that to date McCain is NOT THE CHOICE OF RED STATES (esp. Republicans in those states) is simply an obvious fact, and no more bogus than pointing out that it's raining in Portland again.

20 posted on 02/10/2008 4:34:42 PM PST by Jack Black
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