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Straight Talk About Candidate McCain & the Hard Right
Richmond Times Dispatch ^ | 2/10/08 | Ross Mackenzie

Posted on 02/10/2008 12:44:36 PM PST by beejaa

So, with Tsunami Tuesday now history, where do things stand in the Republican nomination race?

At this point we can't know the winner absolutely but -- far more than in the Democratic race -- we can see clearly the shape of things to come. The Republican nominee is going to be John McCain.

I can't vote for him. He's just so, you know, liberal.

Liberal? In this party?

James Dobson can't stand him. Sean Hannity wanted Romney. Huckabee is solid. Strict libertarian "Reason" mag has run an article headlined: "Be Afraid of President McCain: The Frightening Mind of an Authoritarian Maverick." Ann Coulter says if McCain wins the nomination she'll campaign for Hillary. Rush --

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: election; mackenzie; mccain; potomacprimary; va2008
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I thought this might provoke some discussion (gulp).
1 posted on 02/10/2008 12:44:40 PM PST by beejaa
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To: beejaa

McCain is the anti-Reagan.


2 posted on 02/10/2008 12:55:50 PM PST by Sybeck1 (RIP GOP, Born 1854, Died 2008)
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To: beejaa

Brothas and Sistas, it’s good to have you out this morning. “Amen, amen, amen...”

Today I want you to turn with me in the Good Book to John VIII, Chapter 11 Verse 5, and read along with me. “Yes thank you reverend, amen, amen...”

And the lord spoke form on high saying...

They shall tear down your nation... “Amen!”
They shall smite your military... “Amen, amen, amen, amen...”
They shall shut down your radio stations... “Amen, brother, amen, amen...”
They shall opress the people... “Amen, amen, yes lord...”
They shall cause the government to crush the people... “Oh amen bother...”
There will be a great wailing across the land... “Oh yes brother, amen, amen, amen...”
They shall cause great plagues to befall you... “Amen...”

So be sure and vote for me on November 5th. “Wha??????”

That’s not a platform I can support...

This November, just say no (more).


3 posted on 02/10/2008 12:56:10 PM PST by DoughtyOne (That's right McStain, you'll get my vote when you peel it from my cold dead fingers.)
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To: beejaa

I clicked the link, it is well worth reading.


4 posted on 02/10/2008 12:56:44 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: beejaa

“Early contemporary conservatism, emphatically not an ideology, was a big-tent affair with room for everyone embracing certain key principles, no matter how wacky some of the consequent views might be. No one dictated acceptable positions on any issue. The effort of some “conservatives” to reject John McCain as a deviationist from their decreed line — to judge him by their litmus tests that (in their minds) he fails — attests to a 20-year ideologization of the Republican Party’s puristic wing.”

He makes it sound like I’ve changed; it wasn’t me that changed, it was the party itself.

McCain, Clinton, Obama - all sitting senators, none in jeopardy of losing his/her seat; only McCain knows that this is his last turn at the Brass Ring, Father Time is not on his side.

If I were a Martian, my money would be on Obama and if I didn’t double my bet this turn, I’d break the Bookie’s bank next go-round.


5 posted on 02/10/2008 1:09:38 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Old Professer

I wouldn’t put it past HillBill machine that an accident happens to Obama between now and the election. And they wind up capitalizing on it and using his death to propel themselves into office.


6 posted on 02/10/2008 1:13:23 PM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: beejaa
I don't consider myself an ideologue, particularly, nor a member of any "hard" right. But this hagiography is an attempt, IMHO, to paper over some serious differences of both approach and past track record.

McCain had taken to proclaiming that the border must first be closed before amnesty may be discussed. That is a position quite different from not only those he has expressed in the past, but more importantly those he has acted upon in the past. One expects a politician's public position to alter somewhat depending on circumstance - he is, after all, supposed to be representing the public - but this particular one strains credulity a little and causes most conservatives to question what he will really do in office - what he has said, or what he has done in the past. They're two very different things.

As far as the "gang of 14" bringing us Alito, this is a neat summation and an entirely fallacious representation of events. I do not find the sort of "bipartisanship" comprised of surrending to the other fellow's loud insistence to be particularly laudable. Once again, the conservative must wonder if there isn't a serious discrepancy between word and deed.

And as far as McCain-Feingold, the fact that it was a failure and a rather silly approach does not ameliorate the fact that it was a serious threat to freedom of speech. That McCain thought this compromise to be acceptable calls into question what else he is willing to negotiate away all in the spirit of undying bipartisan chumship in DC.

These then, are fairly serious matters for anyone contemplating voting for McCain, conservative or otherwise. I do not think marginalizing 30% of his potential vote by claiming that we're unreasonable or ideologues is likely to be a fruitful approach. McCain needs to start proposing definite programs if he's going to convince us that his future deeds will match his present words. And we need to hold him to them.

7 posted on 02/10/2008 1:17:40 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Sybeck1

Either you don’t know McCain’s record or you don’t know Reagan’s record.


8 posted on 02/10/2008 1:23:15 PM PST by Philly Nomad
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To: beejaa
I can't vote for him. He's just so, you know, liberal.

They got that part correct.

9 posted on 02/10/2008 1:26:22 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: DoughtyOne
Actually John 8.11 has the words of Jesus to the woman taken in adultery: "Neither do I condemn thee. Go and sin no more."

That's closer to my attitude. When there were 9 Republican candidates, McCain was near the bottom of the list for me, but now that the possibilities seem to be narrowed down to McCain, Hillary, or Obama being sworn in as the next President, I'd rather have a flawed Republican who is at least conservative on some issues (the war on terror and abortion, for examples) than a Marxist or a crypto-Muslim.

10 posted on 02/10/2008 1:26:45 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Secret Agent Man

—”I called you on your delineation. Not the other way around. “

Agreed.

And they’ll use a Southern Racist as their patsy, so the Clinton machine can get more mileage out of scapegoating white males.


11 posted on 02/10/2008 1:36:06 PM PST by AlanGreenSpam ("Celebrate Diversity! Look at the world with all it's problems - Isn't "diversity" so beautiful?)
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To: beejaa
McCain Fiendold,

McCain Kennedy,

McCain Lieberman.

McCAin Edwards

Kerry-McCain proposal

Straight talk that Mr McMexico! No Way, NO HOW!

12 posted on 02/10/2008 1:58:30 PM PST by MrPiper
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To: Verginius Rufus

There is no John VIII, Chapter 11 Verse 5.

There is a John 2008, November the fifth...


13 posted on 02/10/2008 2:10:31 PM PST by DoughtyOne (That's right McStain, you'll get my vote when you peel it from my cold dead fingers.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I know the Clinton’s are ruthless, but you need to get a grip.


14 posted on 02/10/2008 2:13:58 PM PST by kjo
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To: Graybeard58

I clicked the link, I wondered what the author had been smoking before writing that twaddle.


15 posted on 02/10/2008 2:21:30 PM PST by eclecticEel (oh well, Hunter 2012 anyone?)
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To: Sybeck1

I’m with you. He won’t get my vote. No way. No how. I have a feeling the next prez is going to be Obama. I don’t like it. But so be it. He will be a temorary phenonmenon. Either he or Hillary will flame out it elected.


16 posted on 02/10/2008 2:26:35 PM PST by AdaGray
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To: DoughtyOne; Carry_Okie
The biggest danger is that conservatives and libertarians and other independents so dislike McCain that too many of us stay home on election day in disgust or protest.

Thereby, we let the Dem President come into office with a filibuster proof Senate.

Who is served by that? Many of McCain's backers, that's who!

Ron, I doubt I need remind you how a low voter turn-out was made a certainty when get out the vote funds were withheld from Bill Simon in 2002. A White House that was not OPENLY hostile to conservative candidates played no small role in that.

Well, now think about what the topmost candidate on the GOP ticket, one who has been openly hostile to conservatives, might be capable of.

Do you think you can help? Conservatives who can't be enthused by McCain might readily be convinced to devote their energies to electing particular Congressional or Senate Candidates -- especially if it thwarts the revenge of that angry man at the top.
17 posted on 02/10/2008 2:26:37 PM PST by Avoiding_Sulla (We are at war with global warming. We've always been at war with GW. Fascism is our friend. </s>)
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To: Philly Nomad

Look at post 12. Would the Gipper propose any of those?


18 posted on 02/10/2008 2:28:09 PM PST by Sybeck1 (RIP GOP, Born 1854, Died 2008)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
I agree that we should most assuredly back the good congressional and senate candidates. We must vote for them, even if we plan on writing in for president.
19 posted on 02/10/2008 2:42:37 PM PST by DoughtyOne (That's right McStain, you'll get my vote when you peel it from my cold dead fingers.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Then please agree that all this negative energy needs to be redirected to thwart liberals of all stripes.

The top of the ticket often draws out voters.

Dissatisfaction with that will claim OUR side more than theirs.

UNLESS.

We must drive our side into thwarting our nemeses of all stripes.


20 posted on 02/10/2008 2:47:37 PM PST by Avoiding_Sulla (We are at war with global warming. We've always been at war with GW. Fascism is our friend. </s>)
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